It seems in the last couple years..the mood has change so to speak. That attitudes towards "bulking" has changed. Atleast, this is what I sense. In fact, it seems like "bulking" has kind of been overplayed or something on here..to the point that noone seems to really mention it. I could be wrong..this is the only sub-section I really post or read (Nutrition).
I think a lot have toned it down with the BULK OR DIE..EAT SHIT AND GET CALORIES!! CALS CALS CALS! I can attest that I did this..it worked..I gained a great deal of strength during that period and size in a relatively short time..about a year. But..I was pretty "bloated" ..probably 16% bf atleast..I probably could have stood to take it back with the dirty cals a bit..gained less weight, but that less weight most likely would have been excess fat I gained. Or not? Who knows.
I was going through an old thread out of boredom..going through my old posts and found it..you can search it. Bulking Motivation by Dave Tate. Compare the overall attitude and vibe on that thread in comparison to the average vibe or articles written by contributors on here today.
But..reading this thread made me think about a few things. Many on there stated, in basically the same words that: If you are training HARD, actually training..you CAN and SHOULD eat ALOT of calories, no matter your weight. In other words..you basically earn these excess calories if you truly train hard and can stand to eat some "shit". I question this..I KNOW how I trained..I was on my schools powerlifting team...I still gained a considerable amount of fat.
For some reason, I get the vibe that ALOT of the nutritional info of the last 5 years or so..the stuff being re-iterated so hard on this and many other boards is EAT BIGGGG. Perhaps..this is geared towards the "ectos"...the "hardgainers"...the skinny kids who ate cereal all day and played video games but stayed 120lbs. Sure..THEY need to scarf food down including wendys burgers..but perhaps I don't. Maybe this is where the attitudes have shifted towards a more clean approach..? I really don't know.
I have said this and will always say this...the skinny kids..the ectomorphs so to speak (if that shit even exists) they ARE the genetically gifted ones. I have seen SOOO many of these kids ..peers of mine..scronny (but lean) ..they are the ones that simply need to EAT..that's IT..EAT everythingggg and lift. Guess what..they gain tons of muscle and close to NO fat. That's the most conducive body type outside of the guy who is naturally larger and leaner. I think people are starting to realize this now..and in turn are "marketing" their nutritional information to the average person; someone who can gain muscle when they train and eat..but can also gain fat if they eat w.e. they want.
This has been a long post and may be totally bullshit..but I'd really like to hear your opinions on this.