[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
[quote]JFG wrote:
[quote]browndisaster wrote:
agreed with what JFG and Maiden said
most people at the gym just sequence with their egoes in mind so they do:
-heavy bb bench
-db bench (doesn’t look dorky to them as long as you’re moving 70+lbs)
-fart around on chest machines and cable flyes with weights so low that you know that at this point they couldn’t do a single pushup or dip[/quote]
Egoes is only one part of it.
I know a lot of people don’t like SS, but the damn thing teaches you basics and it is a proven program. most people in the gym don’t have the basics. Join a new gym, don’t tell them your background and ask if you can get a basic program. Machines and dumbells.
if ANYBODY has ever walked into a gym and the trainer showed you a squat, please let me know.
One gym I went to had a powerlifting/oly gym set up. The trainer just walked past it, tells me what it is and says “Very technical and the you can hurt yourself. It is not used often. Over here is the …” With attitude like that, no wonder…
So kids, get on a proven program. Stick with it for 12 weeks minimum. Stop looking around and “judge” other people.
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All of my clients are raising their hands. But yeah, I understand what you are saying as I’m the only trainer in my gym that actually teaches people how to squat correctly. It’s not purely the trainers faults though as most certifying bodies teach atrocious (and biomechanically wrong) squatting form.
SS gets people squatting, deadlifting, benching (not that that’s anything special), overhead pressing (which, might not be the best course of action depending on their current mobility), rowing, and adds in some room for some accessory work (pull-ups, curls, etc…). In that regard it’s good.
But one doesn’t necessarily have to go to as far as SS to the other end of the spectrum (from doing only beach muscle workouts) to effectively build strength in those lifts. Any well designed BB’ing split will have people doing most if not all of those exercises. I don’t know where everyone is getting this idea that BB’ing splits are all curls, leg extensions, and crunches.
Personally, I think newbie BB’ers would be better off following something like Max OT, or WS4SB than SS. But that’s of course just my opinion.[/quote]
the only benefit i see with starting strength is the frequency of compound lifts.