Vinny Dizenzo and I were chatting at a meet a few years ago and said “look at these guys eye balling each other and looking all mad…the meet is the fun part, the training that got you here was the tough part…enjoy yourself”
I forgot how much he benched that day but I’m sure it was bigger than most of the deadlifts done.[/quote]
I really like that.
To each his own but I don’t see why you want to have the desire of demoralising others. Maybe that makes me a
loser, I don’t know.
I think it all depends if you are truly any good or not. I know that I’m not the next Ed Coan and I accept that. I won’t be dedicating my life to lifting and that’s what it takes to be a champion. But I’d like to think I still want to be a winner in my own right.
I’d rather people admired me than hated me personally. I’d rather hit a total and for people to think “Wow, he didn’t have great genetics or anything but he worked really hard for many years to hit that” instead of “Wow, what an asshole, I hate this guy!”. Of course people will think what they want to think but I’d rather give off that kind of mentality - to inspire - rather than demoralise.[/quote]
Why don’t you think you can inspire people by literally destroying them in competition? Don’t you get fucking angry when someone beats you? I don’t know if you do or not but losing for me is a kick in the ass I hate it more than anything and it only makes me go after people harder to absolutely demolish them the next chance I get.[/quote]
No, fair enough, you can do both at the same time. It’s more I was questioning having a strong desire to demoralise other lifters. Of course in the heat of the moment when you’re all pumped up you might want to think that to help you get psyched up or whatever but in a normal, calm environment it’s a bit odd to think it.[/quote]
I wouldn’t go around telling other athletes that they’re complete shit and that they should just give up or anything like that, but I find it hard to believe that inside yourself you don’t silently harbor a feeling of hate for someone that beat you and that you should be doing everything in your power to repay the favor.[/quote]
I don’t mean to be cynical, but if you’ve never actually down a powerlifting competition, why are you even commenting on a thread in the PL forum about competing in PL’ing?
I’m sure like most people here, you have engaged in some sort of athletic endeavour in your life (wrestling or whatever). I competed as a D-1 athlete and I can certainly tell you that unless you are competing at an international level in Powerlifting, it is not at all the same. I get more passionate about my co-ed rec basketball league than I do about Powerlifting competitions.
Do you know why?
In literally every other sport, the underdog can win. Football, basketball, wrestling, golf, whatever. If that dude is having a particularly stellar day and the person he is playing against is a bit off, then that guy can win. This absolutely does not happen in Powerlifting (save for cases where the competitors are roughly equal skill).
I could play Shaq in basketball 1 on 1 one hundred times and maybe win 5 of those. On the other hand, if I competed against Mike Tuscherer head to head 100 times in PL meets, how many of those do you think I’d actually come out on top in? Not to get down on myself, but I don’t stand a chance. The strength discrepancy is that large that it is absolutely ridiculous to compare myself to him or expect to “beat him”.
On the hand other, I can certainly compete against myself and smash my previous PR’s.
This is not even considering the fact that, as I mentioned before, PL is so divided and fractured, who the fuck are you exactly even competing against anymore? Each federation has their own nuances that makes comparing across them a bit silly.
Not only that, but in most sports, there is actually a set schedule for competitions. Meaning you start out the season, play a lot of your opponents, and the best ones keep advancing culminating in some sort of national championship. Along the way, if you are one of the better players (or teams) you will end up playing another one of the better players (or teams). In powerlifting, individuals deicde what meet they are doing and since there are so many of them, it is quite possible you could go your entire career not ever seeing one of your “competitors” at an actual fucking competition.
So considering this, how do people decide they want to act like flaming douchebags to people at meet, and get to the point where they think people are “out for them”, or actually even give a fuck about them in the first place? Maybe I lack the “competitive drive” or whatever people have been harping on here, but that makes you a chump in my book.
So as I said before, if you are actually competing in international competitions, where the actual cream of the crop are actually showing up and you are REALLY competing against them, then so be it. Go out there and do you man. But for 95% of the people on this forum swinging dicks? Its laughable.[/quote]
I understand what you’re saying but are you really gonna tell me that if you entered a meet and you knew that the guy you were going against was really close to your numbers, just a little over, that you wouldnt try to bust your ass to come out on top? I’m not saying like stomp around and be an asshole to everyone, but have a mental storm going and really want to be able to beat the guy?