Mother Stressing Out. Need Help

[quote]golder wrote:

[quote]Vicomte wrote:

[quote]golder wrote:

[quote]VTBalla34 wrote:
Your mom seemed fine the last time I saw her[/quote]

I’ll give you that one fella.[/quote]

That’s what she said.[/quote]

Not quite man, syntactically it’s a doesn’t quite make sense. They’re getting slightly better though.
Fuck the system![/quote]

Syntactically?

Are you seriously bringing syntax into this?*

*What your Mom said last night.

Your not giving me much to go with buddy. I can either attack your anti-establishment, fuck the system, rock and roll avatar, your recent hernia, or your poor syntax. Seeing as I don’t want to stoop too low, much like you insulting people’s mothers on the internet, I’m gonna opt for the latter.

[quote]golder wrote:
Your not giving me much to go with buddy. I can either attack your anti-establishment, fuck the system, rock and roll avatar, your recent hernia, or your poor syntax. Seeing as I don’t want to stoop too low, much like you insulting people’s mothers on the internet, I’m gonna opt for the latter. [/quote]

I really don’t get this syntax thing. You’ve been typing much more ineptly than I have.

And I know not of this hernia you speak of.

I’m starting to think your mother is your only redeeming feature.

A liar and a rockstar?
Page 8 Modok’s nutrition thread - Barrett’s and a hiatal hernia.
Do yourself a favour mate, I should imagine it’s going to be very hard for you to swallow your relentless pride given the suggestion of your avatar angst, but how about you give up on cussing people’s mothers, continue to spend most of your waking hours in the ‘Sex and the Male Animal’ thread to find ways to bolster your rockstar image and I’ll continue to look out for my dear old mother, bless her.

[quote]golder wrote:
A liar and a rockstar?
Page 8 Modok’s nutrition thread - Barrett’s and a hiatal hernia.
Do yourself a favour mate, I should imagine it’s going to be very hard for you to swallow your relentless pride given the suggestion of your avatar angst, but how about you give up on cussing people’s mothers, continue to spend most of your waking hours in the ‘Sex and the Male Animal’ thread to find ways to bolster your rockstar image and I’ll continue to look out for my dear old mother, bless her.
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Neato a stalker!

You know, I never really thought of it as a real hernia, seeing as nothing’s poking out anywhere.

But I suppose you are correct sir!

I wish you all the best.
And remember, always look after your mother, you only get one.

I am a naturally stressed out person that has a hard time sleeping. The only thing that works for me is avoiding caffeine and getting cardio to burn myself out.

OP - i’m going to go out and assume your mom is also very tired as well? true?

OP,

I’m sorry you’ve haven’t gotten many legitimate answers. I’ll do my best to give you some answers here as I’ve personally trained many women that have gone through the same symptoms.

Rhodiola - while this is a good supplement, I don’t think it’d be the best choice for your mom. I find it better for those doing shift-work.
Phosphdatylserine - a great supplement, but effective doses are high and therefore very expensive - the supplements I’ve listed below have a much better bang for your buck

Try starting her off on a combination of these:

Inositol - helps to re-balance nuerotransmitters and improve mood especially for women going through menopause. Start with 1g (1/5th of a teaspoon) 1 hour before bed. Titrate the dose up by a gram each night until she finds the optimal dose for mood/sleep. This will be below 10g

Magnesium Chelates - such as magnesium glycinate, magnesium fumarate, magnesium asparate, and magnesium taurate - are anti-stress minerals and there’s a 99% chance she’s deficient in magnesium. Look for her to take two 600mg doses, one in the evening, and one an hour before bed. This will huge in helping her to have a very deep and restorative sleep. The best supplement I’ve found for this is UberMag

Taurine - by far the best bang for your buck with regards to anti-stress. Start with 2g in the evening and then dose up as needed.

Vitamin E - look for the gamma-tocopherol form, this one is incredibly important for menopausal aged women, as this form of Vitamin E is the most bioavailable and will help with menopausal symptoms.

Finally some other things to try:

  • Have her cut out grains from her diet
  • Take fish oil liquid - a tablespoon 2x a day should do the trick
  • Vitamin D3 - 5000 IU/Day

All the best!

Really really appreciate that post ‘hungryone’
Thanks so much, I’m definitely going try and utilise the information you suggested!

@Holymacaroni - yeah, she is frequently tired/lethargic, it’s a shame to see.

rhodiola + phospho(something) would not go well together.

phospho(something) will suppress cortisol while rhodiola will
try to restore the cortisol levels it being an adaptogen confusing
the body and (possibly adding unnoticable internal stress)

anything exogenous substance that suppresses cortisol taken over
an extended period of time will effect the way the body (specifically
the HTPA axis) handles stress

this is why you shouldn’t try to self-medicate IMO

have her join a bingo club at the local rec or something some positive
social interaction and other activites mentioned earlier might do her some
good i would tell her to stay away from vitamin dick though doesn’t sound good

After she goes for a check-up with her physician to rule out anything obvious…

This is unlikely to be an easy fix, as in “take this pill…” She’s learned some maladaptive patterns of dealing with stress, and now she’s on sort of autopilot.

A lot of people with anxiety disorders can treat themselves with Cognitive Therapy. Ultimately, she has to realize that she can do something about this pattern of behavior. Adults aren’t my specialty, but I might try a book like this one.

I had a colleague who had great success treating children with anxiety disorders by teaching them Tai Chi. Learning some yoga or meditation techniques can also be helpful.

Obviously, stimulants like coffee can make this sort of thing worse.

Golder
Having been married to a high-stress woman for 30+ years, I would agree that she needs to see a doctor. If its menopause, which could be likely, they will help her with those symptoms. If it is general anxiety, they can prescribe pills. My wife’s situation ended up being anxiety, which sounds like more of the symptoms you described of your mother. And the pills she takes keeps her even keeled, and able to tolerate the daily stresses like what you indicated. She once would be set off by the smallest things; now she keeps calm and is able to deal with them. That’s the best thing you can do for her, is encourage her to see a doctor. If she doesn’t want to, that’s her choice. But you can tell her how it makes you feel to watch her stress out all the time, and that you’re concerned for her overall health. If she loves you, she will listen and consider your advice.

[quote]cpaman100 wrote:
Golder
Having been married to a high-stress woman for 30+ years, I would agree that she needs to see a doctor. If its menopause, which could be likely, they will help her with those symptoms. If it is general anxiety, they can prescribe pills. My wife’s situation ended up being anxiety, which sounds like more of the symptoms you described of your mother. And the pills she takes keeps her even keeled, and able to tolerate the daily stresses like what you indicated. She once would be set off by the smallest things; now she keeps calm and is able to deal with them. That’s the best thing you can do for her, is encourage her to see a doctor. If she doesn’t want to, that’s her choice. But you can tell her how it makes you feel to watch her stress out all the time, and that you’re concerned for her overall health. If she loves you, she will listen and consider your advice.[/quote]

I’ve seen people who are very anxious have hyperthyroid. It could be a host of things, but menopause shouldn’t turn someone who normally has some decent coping skills into a “nervous wreck”, or high stress person.

I’m glad to hear your wife had success with anti anxiety medications. Anxiety and depression are the far and away the two biggest psychological complaints for adults, and they can be responsible for all kinds of psychosomatic symptoms. We all know people who are on these meds, right? And I agree, if she looks otherwise healthy then they could help at least take the edge off while she hopefully learns some coping skills.

A lot of people think that medication is the only answer, when they could learn some better strategies for dealing with it. Often just buying into the idea that there is something that you can do about it makes people feel less helpless. When you feel like you have some control, that alone tends to reduce anxiety. If that comes from a therapist giving them some things to try, or from their belief that a pill is helping them, it may not make much difference. Taking anti anxiety medication doesn’t need to be a long term solution for most, in my opinion.

Golder -

Has your mom always been a “high strung” nervous or anxious person who doesn’t handle stress well?
That’s how I read your original post.

If this is a new behavior, or was brought on my some major life stress or change, then that’s a very different situation.

For example, I’m normally a very even-keeled person, not a lot of emotional swings. However, I developed an anxiety problem that included panic attacks when I was going through a very stressful situation a few years ago. My infant daughter was very, very sick and I came to dread taking her to all the specialists that we had to see. I was like one of Pavlov’s dogs. I had some very scary experiences in doctor’s offices, (including being told that she might not live very long) so I became conditioned to become very anxious every time I had to take her. Before she had a Dr. appointment I would sometimes become nauseated, hyperventilate, the whole thing. Even though I understood it from an intellectual perspective, I couldn’t seem to stop it from happening. It was situation specific. I’m assuming that isn’t the kind of thing we are talking about here?