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Mother of all Cheat Days! (T-Dawg Question)

Sat was a big cheat day for me I went all out! 2 pizzas, 2 dbl cheeseburgers, Big Mac, Dbl quarter pounder w/ cheese, large fries, box of crackers, 2 ice cream sundaes, and a huge amount of sushi!

Hey gotta do it yonce in a while. Anyway as I go back to the T-Dawg diet, Im wondering is adding a small amount of veggies in with my meals going to negatively impact fat loss? Since the goal is not ketosis but near-ketosis im shooting for 75-100g carbs/day. About 60 are in my post workout shake but Im throwing in about 1/2 cup of various veggies with my solid food meals. I figure this is ok since most veggies are fairly low in carbs and will have little effect on blood sugar. What do ya think?

If you go over your regualar limit on carbs, you go over it, period.
I’d say reducing other carb sources so as to make room for the vegetables, maybe less oatmeal in the morning or something like that.
But vegetables are a good idea to include in every meal–J Berardi noted it can help balance out the acidity of most of the other foods consumed.
I’d say go for one’s like mushrooms or cauliflower which have an equal amount of proteins and carbs per serving.
A cup of mushrooms is 3g C 3g P, not bad, not bad at all.

That sounds like my every day diet LoL…but hey I am a stupid, big , dirty, stinky, beer drinking, powerlifting, bastard…

All depends on what you call vegetables.

If you mean things like spinach, broccoli, cauliflower, kale, celery and so on then just eat up. I don’t care how many of those someone eats they are never going to gain fat from it.

Now the “weak” veggies such as carrots, tomatoes and corn may be enough to throw you over your carb limit, but I still believe the bennies would outway the cost, assuming you aren’t overeating compared to your needs.

You should be including fibrous veggies (i.e. broccoli, cauliflower, brussel sprouts, spinach, asparagus, green beans, etc.) at all of your meals, or nearly all of them with the post-training liquid meal being the primary exclusion.

If you’re striving to keep track of carbs, then do it. Count your carbs from all sources, and keep tabs on the active carbs (i.e. discount the fiber). If you find that you exceed your limit by upping your veggies, make the necessary adjustments by reducing the carbs from other sources (i.e. oats, etc.), as Serg mentioned.