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More Fuel On the Crossfit Fire


#1

"If you train the WODs hard, and eat right and get lots of sleep, you will definitely gain lean mass, lose fat, and yes, you can build muscle mass with the crossfit protocol.

More specifically, according to Coach,
Here is a hierarchy of training for mass from greater to lesser efficacy:

  1. Bodybuilding on steroids
  2. CrossFitting on steroids
  3. CrossFitting without steroids
  4. Bodybuilding without steroids

The bodybuilding model is designed around, requires, steroids for significant hypertrophy.
The neuroendocrine response of bodybuilding protocols is so blunted that without "exogenous hormonal therapy" little happens.

The CrossFit protocol is designed to elicit a substantial neuroendocrine whollop and hence packs an anabolic punch that puts on impressive amounts of muscle though that is not our concern. Strength is.

Natural bodybuilders (the natural ones that are not on steroids) never approach the mass that our ahtletes do. They don't come close.

Those athletes who train for function end up with better form than those who value form over function. This is one of the beautiful ironies of training."

Personally I enjoy Crossfit workouts because it suits my goal of increasing my work capacity. However, I don't see how anyone other than an relatively untrained individual could gain significant size doing a crossfit workout compared to a hypertrophy specific workout. Thoughts? Comments?


#2

What is this "coach" guys background? education and what not...


#3

Crossfit is great for newbies(anything works for them) or people who have run too many triathalons and riden down too many mountain trails and are looking for another edgy challenge. Also superb for those who want to be great at crossfit workouts.

High reps until puking or experiencing organ disfuntion is not a recipe for rugged muscularity. Or max strength. Or health, mental or physical.

Now i must go to my bomb shelter becuase here come the crazies...


#4

I thought we already did this...


#5

" i think crossfit is good for general conditioning,and i do enjoy some of thier w/o's, but if you want any kind of strength running 800 meters and then bench pressing 80% of bodyweight for 25reps for 5 rounds is prob not the best way to get it, and who gives a sh** how many kipping(cheating)pullups you can do? sorry for the little rant, i do like xfit, but the kipping pullups and the way some of their followers think it is the only way to train and accomplish all goals at one time annoys the f*** out of me. " my little rant from a diff thread.


#6

This has already been done to death. Even the specific quote you posted has been debated. You can find comments and thoughts on the Atomic Dog thread from a few weeks ago.


#7

this is true, but i dont mind doing it again as i was recently discussing this with a crossfit advocate(all he seemed to read and believe), got me irritated b/c of the close-mindedness.