The OP is trying to build muscle. To build muscle you need to be in a calorie surplus. Eliminating a source of calories (i.e. carbohydrates) that will facilitate the muscle building process is not conducive to muscle building.
If someone asks "hey, how should I eat to put on muscle?" you do not respond "don't eat (X)." that should be common sense.
JMoUCF87, I was under the impression that eating carbs causes blood glucose levels to increase 4-5 hrs after ingestion - hence the carb cutoff for DC and the idea behind temporal nutrition.
Now I realize that Thib's has said in the past to eat carbs before bed, but I thought that was when dieting (rather than what this guy is trying to do). So by eliminating carbs close to sleeping, you help minimize the inevitable fat gain that goes with building mass.
While it's true that blood glucose levels go up after eating carbs, elevating blood glucose doesn't necessarily mean your storing fat.
The real reason behind carb cutoffs is to keep people from eating a gallon of ice cream before they go to bed every night just because "I'm bulking."
For example, see what happens if you start drinking a quart of heavy cream every night before bed. No carbs sure, but you'll still get fat as fuck because your taking in a ton of calories.
calories cause fat gain, not carbs.
also, a good way to minimize fat gain while bulking is to not go hog wild and eat everything that isn't nailed down. Unfortunately, bulking diets require every bit of attention to detail as cutting diets wrt tacking calories.
I'm interested in that Thibs comment btw, care to link me? I know a lot of athletes are told to eat a ton of pasta the night before sleeping for max energy.
I think it's kind of interesting. I think JMO is right technically, but there might be some exceptions and certainly other ways to look at it
for example, centralizing carbs around training is really good, amd we generally want a lot of carbs around training- maybe way more than we thought.
In the case of a trainee who was lifting in the morning and on a somewhat limited carb plan for whatever reason (which may usually be flawed but forget it for the sake of the theoretical), they might want to take all excess carbs later in the day and stick them around their workout.
Or even if they were eating relatively higher carb but it was just super awesome to get more carbs around training and they were going for a recomp.
We know a lot of people do this successfully by limiting calories non-randomly and centralizing a fuckton around training, so it's definitely not out of the realm of possibility for a morning trainee.
I think this is where the "myth" comes from. It's not a matter of, do I eat this protein + fat+carbs meal instead of just protein+fat, it's, do I take those carbs and stick them earlier in the day. C
Now, I think the answer is likely, if you are already getting adequate carbs around your workout (which is a LOOOOOT for most people), then it doesn't matter or could even be detrimental. So eat your fucking apple and yogurt with that filet and go to bed you jerk!
I think it's also important re: your comment Trenchant, that just eating period is gonna elevate blood glucose for hours. On the other hand, the devils nectar (milk) has plenty of carbs and has a fairly minimal effect- in fact the protein causes a way bigger insulin spike than the lactase.
So even if you think that insulin is the devil and cannot be convinced otherwise, the carbs before sleeping thing won't make a difference if your overall plan is solid,if it fits your macros or w/e the fuck your body wants, and if you eat "clean" carbs then and were going to have a meal anyway.
See, now we can all be friends.
You have good reasons at heart JMO, but might want to learn some diplomacy if you really think it's worth the effort arguing here, unless you just love to fight with people