It wasn't too bad where I got it from, too bad PMs don't work anymore or I'd have sent you a link. The site I got it from is a sponsor on a very well known board, if that helps.
My abs have smoothed a little but I've still got my two abs veins that I like to keep at all times. As long as I'm a little veiny down there I'm at an acceptable leanness. My two most prominent veins in my abs are my canary in the mineshaft. When those go it's time to cut! Haha