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Missed DL Cause of Back Pain

So I completed my 5 week of 5/3/2 las week and I went past technical failure for my Deadlift and was left with some lingering lower back pain. I did barbell rows that Friday, which was stupid cause it made it worse. Anyways today is Tuesday, my Deadlift day for 3 week and it was a terrible session. I did two sets of my warmup and decided if I kept going something bad was going to happen as pain was back. I believe it’s something minor that just needs rest. Anyways I won’t Deadlift or do anything for my lower back for a full week. My question is should I continue like this never happened and hop into the 5/3/1 week next week, or should I repeat this 3 week again next week? Or should I start over a he 5 week for nex week? Thanks

Also on an unrelated note cause this isn’t that important and I don’t want to start a new thread. Today was a shitty session besides the no dead lifting. I did china hen la Pulldowns and then this guy came over and started talking to me and it lasted a full hour. I then finished with my back and biceps work after. I was in be gym for like 2 and a half hours because of this, granted I did have my surge recovery to sip. Is his a completely wasted training session or did I get some good out of this? I know it sounds trivial but I’m curious. Thanks again

Repeat the last week you missed, don’t keep going. I think it’s just a tweak you’ll be fine with proper rest.

Any day you get something done is a good day, even if it wasn’t optimal. Any work is better than no work at all.

That said, tell the guy to fuck off next time. There’s no excuse to be wasting that much time of somebody elses. You were too nice. I’m really nice in the gym as long as you’re not interfering…but when you are trying to take me away from my workout instead of asking for a spot or some quick advice I will let you know it is unacceptable (politely at first, and then increasingly angrily if the person ignores my wishes). I’m there to work, if you want to talk wait til I am done.

Thanks for the reply Aragorn. Sorry about the spelling in the second post it was on an iphone, haha wasn’t just some hidden speech impediment trying to be let out. Yeah I am too nice sometimes. I guess this was kind my fault too though, the guy is really knowledgable and I always learn something when talking to him. Just kinda sucked that it ruined my training session.

Sucks that I have to repeat the 3 week on the other lifts as well but I can manage.

Well my approach,is that if I learn something valuable it wasn’t wasted time to begin with. I thought we were talking about some “bro”. Although it does suck that it sapped your workout.

Dont worry bout the repeats, it might even do you some good in the long run. Besides youre not losong anything, it’s still a high enough training intensity to elicit a growth response.

Yeah I woke up today and my back is stiff as hell and it hurts to bend over. Still hoping I just tweaked it. Just to be clear you’re saying I should do my 3 week again next week?

[quote]Aragorn wrote:
Well my approach,is that if I learn something valuable it wasn’t wasted time to begin with. I thought we were talking about some “bro”. Although it does suck that it sapped your workout.
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This. If he’s truly smart, that time wasn’t wasted at all (specifically assuming you were talking about training related stuff). Obviously you can’t have every session be like that, but when experienced people are giving you advice, SUCK IT IN!

About the back pain, just make sure next workout that involves lower back, you do more warmups than usual, and if the pain persists, do a “deload” of some sort for lower back.

Yeah he really does know his stuff. He can tell I’m eager to learn too so he has been sharing a lot of info with me.
Oh I was wondering if overhead pressing would make the back pain worse? Obviously if it hurts bad I won’t try but if its iffy should I give it a go?

Deadlifts tend to make my lower back feel better rather than worse.
If i do nothing but squatting in leu of any deadlifting my lower back will start to get stiff.

I feel like i get quite a bit of glute activation from deadlifting because of the emphasis on hip extension.

Deadlifts never tend to cause back pain for me, only when I’m an idiot. Last week I pushed past technical failure for one more rep and tweaked it. My own fault. I’m wondering if I might have to swap barbell rows out of my program for dumbbell rows. It just seems like so many times after dead lifting my lower back is compromised for efficient barbell rowing.

[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
Deadlifts never tend to cause back pain for me, only when I’m an idiot. Last week I pushed past technical failure for one more rep and tweaked it. My own fault. I’m wondering if I might have to swap barbell rows out of my program for dumbbell rows. It just seems like so many times after dead lifting my lower back is compromised for efficient barbell rowing. [/quote]

Either “Deadlifts never tend to cause [you] back pain…” or “so many times after dead lifting [your] lower back is compromised.” Which is it? It sounds like you’re not really being honest with yourself.

Not compromised in the sense of pain, rather in the sense that my lower back is so fatigued that I feel it compromises my form on barbell rowing.

[quote]bulkNcut wrote:
Not compromised in the sense of pain, rather in the sense that my lower back is so fatigued that I feel it compromises my form on barbell rowing. [/quote]

If you’d just listen to your body and use an appropriate weight for bb rows after Dls, that wouldn’t be as much of an issue.

OP, deadlifts can be the best thing or worst thing for back pain, depending entirely on WHY you have pain in the first place, and HOW you’re performing the deadlifts.

Yes, I agree with the deadlifts statement. As I stated before I’m in this situation cause I fucked up and went for one more rep when I shouldn’t have. So I take full responsibility. Anyways I have another question.

I was gonna redo the 3 week this week but my back still kinda hurts. Also I did high volume benching today cause I lifted with a partner and he talked me into it (I thought it wouldn’t be too bad cause this is a redo of my 3 week anyways). 'm gonna do a deadlift warm up tomorrow and if I feel I can pull triples great, if not I’m stopping at any signs of pain. My question is, say I only do my warm up tomorrow and decide to stop. Where the hell do I go from here?

  1. Should I just start the cycle over for my 5 week next week?
  2. Should I hit my 5/3/1 lifts for everything but deadlift next week, (do deadlifts for sets of 5) then do my deload and then start next cycle with added poundage?
  3. Any other alternatives you guys can think of

Thanks so much and I hope this thread is still alive. I would love to get some advice from the more experienced lifters on here.

haha anyone?

If the pain persists, you may be best served by just doing an unplanned de-load week.

So I went in on tuesday and did 4 warm up sets of deads and then stopped. My back felt almost completely better before, a tiny off during but not too bad. I did 135x3 183x3 205x3 and 225x3. Finished my workout with some assistance back work (nothing that really hits the lower back) and some biceps work. Felt fine until I started to walk out of the gym and then the pain hit me. It’s two days later now and the pain is still really bad, I skipped my training today cause I couldn’t do shit. I think I’m gonna take next week completely off from deadlifting and come back for my 5’s week the week after. My question is this… What the hell do I do with my programming, the mess up is as follows.

When I get back it will have been 4 weeks since last deadlifting heavy 3’s week. Should I restart this past cycle or should I even lower 1rm?

Also what should I do with the rest of my lifts in the meantime (rest of this week and next week)? I’m not going to press tomorrow if my back is as bad as today.

I can offer more advice if needed, such as when I last did my bench/press 5/3/1 training days etc. Just let me know

I would really appreciate it if i could get some more experienced guys advice. The help already given was great as well and if you guys are still around feel free to chime in. Idk if flipcollar is still around but if memory serves me right he would be perfect to answer this question.

So I went in on tuesday and did 4 warm up sets of deads and then stopped. My back felt almost completely better before, a tiny off during but not too bad. I did 135x3 183x3 205x3 and 225x3. Finished my workout with some assistance back work (nothing that really hits the lower back) and some biceps work. Felt fine until I started to walk out of the gym and then the pain hit me. It’s two days later now and the pain is still really bad, I skipped my training today cause I couldn’t do shit. I think I’m gonna take next week completely off from deadlifting and come back for my 5’s week the week after. My question is this… What the hell do I do with my programming, the mess up is as follows.

When I get back it will have been 4 weeks since last deadlifting heavy 3’s week. Should I restart this past cycle or should I even lower 1rm?

Also what should I do with the rest of my lifts in the meantime (rest of this week and next week)? I’m not going to press tomorrow if my back is as bad as today.

I can offer more advice if needed, such as when I last did my bench/press 5/3/1 training days etc. Just let me know

I would really appreciate it if i could get some more experienced guys advice. The help already given was great as well and if you guys are still around feel free to chime in. Idk if flipcollar is still around but if memory serves me right he would be perfect to answer this question.

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