Missed an Injection and, I'll Be Damned, Felt Better

I’ve got many blood tests. Here are a few…

Total T: 878 (264-916)
Free T: 26 (8.7-25)
E2: 45.9 (8-35)

Total T: 1020 (264-916)
Free T: 22.9 (8.7-25)
E2: 60 (8-35)

Total T: 653 (250-1100)
Free T: 183 (35-155)
E2: 34 (less than or equal to 29)

I have re-started my injections:

100mg injected once a week on Sunday
Daily T cream to scrotum
HCG on Sunday and Wednesday

This should give me some up and down, which is when I feel good. We shall see…Open to any suggestions.

Personally, i would do the opposite and go against the grain here.

You seem to need fluctuation with E2. I would go to once weekly shots. I BET you’ll feel amazing the days right before your next shot.

Remember, the VAST majority of men take weekly shots.

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I agree with this approach. I have long felt that the reason some of us feel better before the next shot is that we are getting the benefit of higher E and Lower T around that time of the scheduled injection. Because E follows T it stands to reason that an initial bolus dose of T will bring up E relatively quickly but as T trends down after that initial shot E remains somewhat elevated bringing a more normal T to E ratio. I had my 19 year old son who is natural test his hormones and he came back with TT of 632 and E2 of 35 for a ratio of 17.8.

While libido has been good on my 50-70mg a week protocol, I’m going to experiment with higher dosages for better gym performance. I’m going to the old standby protocol of 200mg every 14 days. I suspect I’ll get a raging libido somewhere within that 14 day timeframe. Infrequent injections also has the benefit of tending to bring lower hematocrit and, of course, the ease of pinning only once every 2 weeks.

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So ALLLLLLL this talk I read about injecting more often, is not necessarily the solution. Glad I made this post and I hope it helps someone out. I’m testing this on myself now with ONE shot on Sundays at 100mg, then daily T Cream.

I know the latest logic says to dose more frequently, but cypionate was made to dose every week or every other week.

I think fluctuation is part of feeling well. Cypionate was made for well being. Not tremendous muscle gain, where you’re dosing large amounts weekly.

Some of my best days were the days before my next weekly shot, never to be replicated by more frequent injection protocols.

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Daily injections are for those who burn through T, particularly those with low SHBG. Im one of those guys. Also some people are not meant to be optimized. You can turbo anything, but it doesnt mean it was built for it. Some of you guys were built for less juice. Plain and simple. Those who can run higher doses at more frequent rates dont seem to complain.

You’re on the wrong protocol obviously. So experimenting is the only way to find out what works. Just focus on you, helping others comes when you’ve managed to help yourself. I hope you decipher the riddle. But as of now, you’re still shooting in the dark. I hope the target becomes clear soon.

I am beginning to get to this conclusion as well. Neurologically, constant stimulation causes down regulation of dopamine receptors. And thats where the root of well being and libido sits.

I think theres merit to weekly cyp injections, daily prop, and creams.

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I’m going to go out and even say that my original prescribed 300mg every other week yielded some of my best days where I actually felt libido here and there.

I know this is against logic, as you’d want to micro dose to match the bodies own pattern, but where using a testosterone suspended in a delivery system.

It was also engineered by scientists and researchers.

Just play around to find what works.

Yep, that too. High honeymoon libido one week and no libido the next week is far better than no libido at all…or IMO better than a normal libido even.

Ride the rollercoaster and appreciate the highs and lows. The brain cannot be in a high state all the time, ask any coke sniffer.

Those kinds of “terrible protocols” were used for decades and nobody complained of a lack of being dialed in. The effects also hit fast.

Please everyone note my above comments are not meant as a fix all cure for anyone. My objectives are strictly related to my search for ways to get the return of the honeymoon.

You can also try different dosages to get that fluctuation.

Personally I think I get fluctuations without doing everything cause I wouldn’t think it hard absorbed the same way each time.

But when I do change up the dosages I do get acne and that corresponds to that teenage libido

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What dosage of cream are u using? And once or twice daily application?

Cut your weekly injection into two smaller injections that equal the same desired amount your looking to pin.

I agree, I felt better on once per week than multiple. I must admit, the acne and hair shedding did get better on microdosing, but I don’t feel nearly as happy/healthy.

Because we are dealing with exogenous testosterone and fairly inexperienced doctors, I often wonder how much of the advice for it’s use comes from the gear/gas community. Not faulting them, as they are the experts and often the best and only resource, but some of the protocols I’ve repeatedly read about on here seem to borrow a lot from them. It would seem to me that in order to inject a gram+ of test per week, you’d obviously have to spread that shit out. Maybe that doesn’t work so well for only 75mg? Guys on AI’s for relatively low dosages of test. Also lots on dick pills, also common on gear.

Maybe I’m just a retard, who knows, but it could be those of us weirdos that can’t do a lot of test might do better with bottle recommendations.

I don’t know really.

But i am going to get back to weekly shots i think. Or maybe even a once every 10 days shot.

Any updates here :sweat_smile:?

Not an update as such, just me thinking out loud but I’m wondering whether this is why a lot of guys actually do get on with Sustanon at 10 - 14 day dosing ok?

The different half lives tailing off as they do and then a decent dose again to top up keeps the CNS interested?

Just my personal experience but when I’ve switched from Sust to E (E3.5d) in the past, E left me feeling ‘flat’. Ok but flat.

Total and free test weren’t much different between the two either.

Sup everyone I’m the OP on this thread, yes I do have somewhat of an update…

Tomorrow (Monday) will be the 7th week I’ve been injecting:

100mg of T Cyp once per week

Daily T Cream (100mg/ml) at 0.25 ml / click in the AM (one click)

HCG twice per week - says 6000iu and I inject 0.4ml twice a week

Ipamorelin + Sermorelin at nights - 5 days a week

Nightly Cialis at 5mg before bed

My erections are more reliable but not always 100%, plus I still take 75 mg of Sildenafil prior to activity.

The daily Cialis isn’t helping much and I kind of expected that because Cialis never did much for me - thought I would try daily but it has little to no effect.

Overall I do feel better injecting once a week. Erection quality is better, just not perfect.

Blood test tomorrow.

Thx for the update! Very curious to see your bloodwork