Milk Causes Osteoporosis

Funny - it just so happens that shortly after LL posted that “milk-debated-flare-up” I came across this book that actually links osteoporosis (and many other deadly diseases) to milk consumption!

I thought the Nation would like to know…

Per Dr. Ron Grisanti

The Milk Imperative by Russell Eaton

It had been thought for many years that calcium in milk makes bones stronger, but new research shows osteoporosis is caused by a lack of bone-making cells rather than a lack of calcium, said Russell Eaton, author of the Milk Imperative.

Dairy milk is singled out as the culprit because more than any other food it depletes the finite reserve of bone-making cells in the body.

Although milk makes bones stronger in the short term, in the long term it erodes bone-making cells, increasing the risk of osteoporosis.

This explains why countries with the highest rates of milk consumption, such as Ireland, Austria, and Holland, also have the highest incidence of osteoporosis.

Growing evidence is showing that far from protecting bones, milk actually causes osteoporosis.

For example in a 12-year Harvard study of 78,000 women, those who drank milk three times a day actually broke more bones than women who rarely drank milk.

Similarly, a 1994 study in Sydney, Australia, showed that higher dairy product consumption increased fracture risk: those with the highest dairy consumption had double the risk of hip fracture compared to those with the lowest consumption.

“Dairy milk does increase bone density in the short term, but this comes at a terrible price,” said author Russell Eaton. "Every time you consume milk you erode bone-making cells, increasing the risk of osteoporosis.

The latest research also shows that people with osteoporosis also have a much higher incidence of heart disease and cancer, and the evidence is pointing at milk as the common factor.

For example, it was thought that prostate cancer was caused by harmful fats in the diet, but it turns out that calcium in milk is the culprit because it feeds nanobacteria, and this in turn causes calcification and cancer in the prostate."

Research shows that harmful calcification, caused by nanobacteria in the body, is at the root of many diseases such as arthritis, kidney stones, heart disease and stroke.

These microscopic organisms, which are present in virtually everybody, get fed calcium and phosphorus from the bloodstream and then secrete calcium phosphate to cause harmful calcification.

The book explains how dairy milk is the main food source for nanobacteria, thus causing many serious diseases.

“The milk imperative breaks new ground by bringing together the latest findings on dairy milk that turn many preconceptions on their head - by simply switching from dairy to non-dairy milk we will make a dramatic and long-lasting improvement to our health,” said Dr. Amy Lanou, Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine, United States."

[quote]TopSirloin wrote:
Funny - it just so happens that shortly after LL posted that “milk-debated-flare-up” I came across this book that actually links osteoporosis (and many other deadly diseases) to milk consumption!

I thought the Nation would like to know…[/quote]

Uh, yeah. If anyone didn’t know, you are going to die. I know, that sounds so morbid, but it still stands that you will die and, chances are, it will not be in your sleep or during sex.

With that said, where is the research about how osteocytes (what those bone making cells are called) are affected by training? This is a bodybuilding site and lifting weights improves bone density. We also don’t know what other factors contributed to bone loss in these women unless ALL they consumed for years was milk. I hate studies like this. Women are more prone to osteoporosis, therefore, it doesn’t exactly surprise me that more of them got the disease. What does surprise me is that anyone would relate a lack of reduction in osteocytes to simply not drinking milk. I don’t get it. Is this some colony that either ONLY drinks milk as their soul source of food or doesn’t drink it at all? What if Cheerios are the culprit and no one tested for that?

You are going to die. Say it with me. If you start living life worried about everything that could possibly contribute to death, you might as well give up now. I do believe everything on this planet can kill you in enough quantities…including water.

[quote]TopSirloin wrote:
by simply switching from dairy to non-dairy milk we will make a dramatic and long-lasting improvement to our health," said Dr. Amy Lanou.[/quote]

Would this “non-dairy milk” be Soya milk?

We’re fucked either way, then.

Oh my God! I’m going to die!!!

Wow, turns out milk is the cause of all poor health issues on the planet. Just think, if we could outlaw milk we would live forever.

What an alarmist pile of crap.

Maybe, just maybe, as people age and live sedentary lives with poor eating habits they suffer health consequences.

Then, if you want to present correlational evidence, perhaps those most at risk attempt to drink more milk in order to at least alleviate the risk.

This would certainly allow you to correlate milk to risk… but it wouldn’t be causitive. Also, saying calcium is a problem seems weird since we all need it, whether or not there are “nanobacteria” that require it also. Finally, does anyone have scientific evidence concerning milk and bone marrow function?

Anyway, it would be great to see some real science with claims like these being made…

i knew it all along that, that damn gallon o milk was in my 'fridge just sitting there in the dark ,plotting on how to get me.

Ok. I am staring at my carton of United Vitamin A&D Ultra-Skim Fat Free Milk. It contains “Fat Free Milk, Artificial Colors, Carrageenan, Natural Flavor, Vitamin A Palmitate and Vitamin D3.” Now what I would like to know is what part, EXACTLY, is responsible for killing osteocytes?

I am guessing that it would be in the ?Fat Free Milk? part but what chemical or ingredient is it that is doing this damage? Is it the Caseins, the Whey, Lactose, what is it? Milk is basically nothing but protein, fat, water, salt, vitamins, and enzymes. All of which are generally considered to be good for you.

As for the ?it feeds nanobacteria in the gastric region,? milk also carries lysozymes which are extremely effective in killing bacteria. What gives?

PETA has been pushing this for years. Considering the source, I doubt it is true.

Lift weights to prevent osteoporosis .

This explains why countries with the highest rates of milk consumption, such as Ireland, Austria, and Holland, also have the highest incidence of osteoporosis.

These places are cloudy and rainy most of the year. Vitamin D needs sunlight in order to be effective.

Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.

[quote]MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.
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Bullshit. What about cats?

[quote]MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.
[/quote]

Humans are certainly unique among mammals for many many reasons.

We wear clothes. Perhaps taking them off will prevent hot chicks from getting osteoporosis.

Europeans have been domesticating cattle for something like 8000 years.
Perhaps this is why people of European descent drink and tolerate milk better than people who don’t have the same gentic background.

I believe twinkies and soda are a bit more of a problem.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.

Bullshit. What about cats?[/quote]

Only white cats. Black cats can’t handle milk. That is why it is bad luck if a black cat crosses your path. You might step is his dairy induced diarrhea.

[quote]MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.
[/quote]

And do animals have long life expectancy? No? So your saying we should drink milk?

I’m not going to personally trade smart-ass, non-productive comments with any one person. I’m merely pointing out a resource that might shed some light on this topic with which there is so much uncertainty (and it might just have tons of documentation for further investigation).

You can always take an extreme view and say that ANYTHING can kill you. Let’s be fricken reasonable human beings here - it should go without saying that we are talking about ON AVERAGE, or IN GENERAL that highly processed milk is not a healthy food, OVER-ALL. Now, if at dinner tonight, your choice is either picking through the garbage oustide of a restaurant or scraping a buck together and buying 12 oz of 2% milk… I think the 2% might just be just a tad better for you! Let’s keep it rational, please!

Take it for what you will; if you are not an open minded fitness/health enthusiast, then you will probably combat this with sarcasm, snickery, and general immature BS. On the other hand, if you are not afraid to challenge the common mentalities of our society (often false as many of you know) and maybe even your own beliefs, then get educated on the subject and investigate it for yourself. I too thought milk was one of the greatest liquid meals available (shoot, it’s got vitamins, minerals, P, C, F?!?!), until I found out otherwise.

TS

The only reason other animals don’t regularly consume milk is because they don’t have a way to acquire any.

Would you suggest that other animals learn how to raise milk bearing animals?

I mean, it’s not like it collects in little jugs in trees and is freely available to them.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.

Humans are certainly unique among mammals for many many reasons.

We wear clothes. Perhaps taking them off will prevent hot chicks from getting osteoporosis.

Europeans have been domesticating cattle for something like 8000 years.
Perhaps this is why people of European descent drink and tolerate milk better than people who don’t have the same gentic background.

I believe twinkies and soda are a bit more of a problem.[/quote]

This may be true, but don’t forget those cattle were raised on grass most likely and their milk was NOT pasteurized/homogenized! Remember, it’s usually the processing that ruins most foods (save for soy); the organic whole source is usually tolerable.

TS

Dr. Ron Grisanti is a chiropracter, and Dr. Amy Lanou is a PhD, both are heavy into vegetarianism and anti-animal products. Another article co-authored by Amy Lanou…

http://www.nutritionadvocate.com/story/promiseofplant.html

The “studies” quoted would not even pass the minimum requirements to be considered science. But if you like pseudoscience…try scientology, they do a much better job, and much more “interesting” conclusions.

Milk kills osteocytes. Stupid and boring. Stupid and interesting is more enjoyable to read.

Oh and nanobacteria is a theory, no one knows if they exist, and certainly not what they do.

[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Professor X wrote:
MCGOO wrote:
Of all the mammals, only humans–and then only a minority, principally
Caucasians–continue to drink milk beyond babyhood.

Bullshit. What about cats?

Only white cats. Black cats can’t handle milk. That is why it is bad luck if a black cat crosses your path. You might step is his dairy induced diarrhea.[/quote]

Racist…or Cat-ist…one of the two.

[quote]spamme wrote:
Dr. Ron Grisanti is a chiropracter, and Dr. Amy Lanou is a PhD, both are heavy into vegetarianism and anti-animal products. Another article co-authored by Amy Lanou…

http://www.nutritionadvocate.com/story/promiseofplant.html

The “studies” quoted would not even pass the minimum requirements to be considered science. But if you like pseudoscience…try scientology, they do a much better job, and much more “interesting” conclusions.

Milk kills osteocytes. Stupid and boring. Stupid and interesting is more enjoyable to read.
[/quote]

Best post of the thread. Well, not really, but hell, we will laugh at this thread one way or the other!

Dr. Ron Grisanti
(Ron didn’t site sources here - I’m trying to ask him for them - but, he is generally VERY scientific and has great documentation. His comments are usually not opinion, but rather the best available information based on scientific literature. Check out his writings on estrogen, which are FULLY documented, BTW., most of the T-Nation would definitely agree, scientist and skeptic alike.)

Milk: the food that makes a body SICK!!

Contrary to what the advertising world would want you to believe most milk products are simply bad for your health.

Processing Is the Problem

The path that transforms healthy milk products into allergens and carcinogens begins with modern feeding methods that substitute high-protein, soy-based feeds for fresh green grass and breeding methods to produce cows with abnormally large pituitary glands so that they produce three times more milk than the old fashioned scrub cow.

These cows need antibiotics to keep them well.

Their milk is then pasteurized so that all valuable enzymes are destroyed.

Literally dozens of other precious enzymes are destroyed in the pasteurization process.

Without them, milk is very difficult to digest.

The human pancreas is not always able to produce these enzymes; over-stress of the pancreas can lead to diabetes and other diseases.

The butterfat of commercial milk is homogenized, subjecting it to rancidity.

Even worse, butterfat may be removed altogether. Skim milk is sold as a health food, but the truth is that butter-fat is in milk for a reason.

Without it the body cannot absorb and utilize the vitamins and minerals in the water fraction of the milk. Along with valuable trace minerals and short chain fatty acids, butterfat is America’s best source of preformed vitamin A.

Synthetic vitamin D, known to be toxic to the liver, is added to replace the natural vitamin D complex in butterfat. Butterfat also contains re-arranged acids which have strong anti-carcinogenic properties.

Non-fat dried milk is added to 1% and 2% milk. Unlike the cholesterol in fresh milk, which plays a variety of health promoting roles, the cholesterol in non-fat dried milk is oxidized and it is this rancid cholesterol that promotes heart disease.

Like all spray dried products, non-fat dried milk has a high nitrite content.

Non-fat dried milk and sweetened condensed milk are the principle dairy products in third world countries; use of ultra high temperature pasteurized milk is widespread in Europe.

Other Factors Regarding Milk

Milk and refined sugar make two of the largest contributions to food induced ill health in our country. That may seem like an overly harsh statement, but when one examines the evidence, this is a reasonable conclusion.

Did You Know This?

Ear specialists frequently insert tubes into the ear drums of infants to treat recurrent ear infections. It has replaced the previously popular tonsillectomy to become the number one surgery in the country.

Unfortunately, most of these specialists don’t realize that over 50% of these children will improve and have no further ear infections if they just stop drinking their milk.

This is a real tragedy. Not only is the $3,000 spent on the surgery wasted, but there are some recent articles supporting the likelihood that most children who have this procedure will have long term hearing losses.

It is my strong recommendation that you discontinue your milk products. If you find this difficult, I would start for several weeks only, and reevaluate how you feel at that time.

This would include ALL dairy, including skim milk and Lact-Aid milk, cheese, yogurt, and ice cream. If you feel better after several weeks you can attempt to rotate small amounts of one form of milk every four days.

But…What About My Bones?

You probably are wondering what will happen to your bones and teeth if you stop milk.

The majority of the world’s population takes in less than half the calcium we are told we need and yet they have strong bones and healthy teeth.

Cows’ milk is rich in phosphorous which can combine with calcium – and can prevent you from absorbing the calcium in milk.

The milk protein also accelerates calcium excretion from the blood through the kidneys!!

So Where Do You Get Your Calcium If You Don’t Recommend Milk?

It is possible to obtain all your calcium from dark green vegetables (where do you think the cow gets their’s from?). The darker the better. Cooked collard greens and kale are especially good.

Don’t Forget Vitamin D

It is also important that you take vitamin D in the winter months from November to March. Normally your skin converts sunshine to vitamin D, but the sunshine levels in the winter are very low unless you visit Florida or Mexico type areas.

Most people obtain their vitamin D from milk in the winter; so if you stop it, please make sure you are taking calcium with vitamin D or a multi vitamin with vitamin D to prevent bone thinning.

Cow’s Milk is the most allergic food in this country

Cow’s milk is the number one allergic food in this country. It has been well documented as a cause in diarrhea, cramps, bloating, gas, gastrointestinal bleeding, iron-deficiency anemia, skin rashes, atherosclerosis, and acne.

It is the primary cause of recurrent ear infections in children. It has also been linked to insulin dependent diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, infertility, and leukemia.

Hopefully, you will reconsider your position on using milk as a form of nourishment.

Small amounts of milk or milk products taken infrequently, will likely cause little or no problems for most people.

Do Be Fooled by Madison Avenue Advertising!

The American Dairy Board has done a very effective job of marketing this product.

Most people believe they need to consume large, daily quantities of milk to achieve good health.

NOTHING could be further from the truth!

Public health officials and the National Dairy Council have worked together in this country to make it very difficult to obtain wholesome, fresh, raw dairy products. Nevertheless, they can be found with a little effort. In some states, you can buy raw milk directly from farmers.

So is ALL milk bad?

No! Whole, pasteurized, non-homogenized milk from cows raised on organic feed is now available in many gourmet shops and health food stores.

It can be cultured to restore enzyme content, at least partially. Cultured buttermilk is often more easily digested than regular milk; it is an excellent product to use in baking.

Many shops now carry whole cream that is merely pasteurized (not ultra pasteurized like most commercial cream); diluted with water, it is delicious on cereal and a good substitute for those allergic to milk.