i found out real early i responded great to methoxy ,at 800 mg i had people asking me if i was working out,now i never gained weight i got really defined,i later jacked the dosage to nearly 2 grams a dayand loved it.i felt pumped all the timeand was getting more of a athletic build(ihave always been considered on the stocky side not fat )but i never gained weight.as an interesting side note androsol never did much in the way for me although nandosol kicks ass.