"Granted I'm lean enough to be able to notice subtle changes in body fat, so it may not be observable in someone who's at a much higher fat percentage".
I tend to agree here with Chris. I am about 15% body fat and I don't distinguish any body comp change toward leaning out when using Methoxy-7.
What I do notice is a hardening of muscle like creatine gives me. Not quite as pumped though. I notice some visual vascularity as well ie-veins coming out. This isn't really significant to me. The outcome I have is mostly cosmetic meaning recovery from w/o to w/o hasn't improved and I don't seem to be getting any strength gains or muscle energy like I do with creatine.
I have been dieting too so I wasn't expecting any gains in strength. Methoxy-7 could be helping me keep my muscle but I can't tell you for sure. With creatine while dieting I still get muscle energy though. I consider creatine to be a practical supp for my lifting and mountain biking. Methoxy-7 isn't really adding anything to my muscle expenditures while being active. Not to where I can tell. Creatine does.
On another note. I didn't notice anything from Methoxy-7 until I upped my dose to 4 caps 3x daily. Then I felt the hardening of muscle. The first 2 bottles I went through I was only using 2 caps 2x a day. After trying it again a few weeks later using 2 bottles at 12 caps a day I felt it and noticed the vascularity. I still have one more bottle to go. I bet the vascularity looks good when you are already lean though. That's just cosmetic to me. "Veinity"!
Bottom line for me is creatine is cheaper and does more for me regarding my physical activities ie, MBiking and lifting. I have to spend too much money for Methoxy-7 and the most significant result is an emptier wallet no disrespect intended. I'm just talking about Methoxy-7 here, not Biotests product line which I appreciate being able to use. They're cutting edge supps.