Mesomorphic Condition

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[quote]morepain wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]morepain wrote:
you are looking for the magic bullet IT DOES NOT EXIST. i ahve used GH and damn near everything else for 20 years more on than off. it makes a marginal difference…THAT IS IT…i get so tired of all these threads that want to make it out to be THE ANSWER…its a tool on the box …that is all it will ever be [/quote]

Sure it’s just a ‘tool in the box’, but for those who [i]have truly sorted out their nutrition, training, lifestyle, supplementation and AAS usage GH and/or other peptides can make the difference between 10% and 7% bodyfat (to pick two numbers out of my arse at random, lol).

BBB[/quote]

well you know that i certainly am a fan of GH but its just easy to tell by reading threads the guys that have convinced themselves that this is gonna be it the one magical thing that changes everything and as you know it does not. the marginal difference you illustrate is accurate and i am sure severely disappointing to the OP. What people want to hear is once i started GH my whole life changed i went form 200 to 260 and leaner etc etc or some crap like that…out of most of the chemicals that are used i would say it makes the LEAST impact to a new user all things considered.
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First of all, I am really glad to hear from the legendary morepain. (BBB don’t be jealous)
Morepain,
i understand where you are coming from and what you are saying about HGH. It’s just that i got 500iu of HGH for free, and i wanted to give BBB’s protocol a try. I know that HGH is not magic, but with this thread, i tried to gather some of the past info so i and everyone else can learn something.
keeping in mind that if any of the new members read this and want to know more about BBB protocol, they will know where to start from.

Again thanks morepain for sharing your thoughts and i hope that you share more of those thoughts consistently in this thread

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:

If I fail to dose my peptides for a few days, the softening effect is fairly rapid.[/quote]

so from what Dave is saying, adding GHRP-6 has short term effects, but when we talk about Mesomorphic Tendencies and the long term effects then it doesn’t aid that much.

what do you think BBB? (no need to give details, just a yes/no answer)

By the way Dave, thanks for sharing your experience with us. very usful info

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[quote]Nidal AK wrote:

[quote]morepain wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]morepain wrote:
you are looking for the magic bullet IT DOES NOT EXIST. i ahve used GH and damn near everything else for 20 years more on than off. it makes a marginal difference…THAT IS IT…i get so tired of all these threads that want to make it out to be THE ANSWER…its a tool on the box …that is all it will ever be [/quote]

Sure it’s just a ‘tool in the box’, but for those who [i]have truly sorted out their nutrition, training, lifestyle, supplementation and AAS usage GH and/or other peptides can make the difference between 10% and 7% bodyfat (to pick two numbers out of my arse at random, lol).

BBB[/quote]

well you know that i certainly am a fan of GH but its just easy to tell by reading threads the guys that have convinced themselves that this is gonna be it the one magical thing that changes everything and as you know it does not. the marginal difference you illustrate is accurate and i am sure severely disappointing to the OP. What people want to hear is once i started GH my whole life changed i went form 200 to 260 and leaner etc etc or some crap like that…out of most of the chemicals that are used i would say it makes the LEAST impact to a new user all things considered.
[/quote]

First of all, I am really glad to hear from the legendary morepain. (BBB don’t be jealous)
Morepain,
i understand where you are coming from and what you are saying about HGH. It’s just that i got 500iu of HGH for free, and i wanted to give BBB’s protocol a try. I know that HGH is not magic, but with this thread, i tried to gather some of the past info so i and everyone else can learn something.
keeping in mind that if any of the new members read this and want to know more about BBB protocol, they will know where to start from.

Again thanks morepain for sharing your thoughts and i hope that you share more of those thoughts consistently in this thread[/quote]

no problem i just try to keep things grounded in reality… in the end what works is consistency day in day out for many years. Plus i like to be BBB’s thorn in the side but in what i hope is productive fashion…either that or he must certainly hate me by now…maybe we should start one of those who can kick whose ass threads…those are always productive…LOL

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and being that you have the gh then yes i would certainly use bushy’s protocol to implement it. personally i just do intramuscular…probably because after 20 years of injecting every damn chemical known to man into my body i am just a little tired of it.

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[quote]Nidal AK wrote:

[quote]Dave_ wrote:

If I fail to dose my peptides for a few days, the softening effect is fairly rapid.[/quote]

so from what Dave is saying, adding GHRP-6 has short term effects, but when we talk about Mesomorphic Tendencies and the long term effects then it doesn’t aid that much.

what do you think BBB? (no need to give details, just a yes/no answer)

By the way Dave, thanks for sharing your experience with us. very usful info[/quote]

No problem. But allow me to elaborate on short term vs long term.

When I talk about short term effects, I am talking about the subjective “hardening/softening” effect. When dosing GHRP6 5+ times per day, my physique will have a leaner, drier look, which amplifies the vascular appearance. If I stop doing this (as I have recently, my stockpile has been depleted) then these effects are less pronounced fairly quickly (2-3 days).

Long term however, if by mesomorphic you mean positive changes in overall body shape, then yes this is retained. Also I have found that I can take longer off from training, and still maintain a generally well conditioned look. I doubt my skeleton has undergone any structural changes, but I think that long term dosing of GHRPs/GH gives your body the edge in terms of muscle retention/maintaining lower bf%, even when pepties are discontinued. The increase in vascularity also remains, however is somewhat obscured by the softening effect.

For instance, I have recently moved house and together with the general upheaval and lack of finding a decent gym in that time I maybe managed to get 1 training session per week, for about 3-4 weeks. General softening occurred, naturally, however I have found that I have kept all of my strength and my overall mesomorphic “shape” has not suffered. I am simply slightly smoother and appear slightly less vascular.

In summary, whilst dosing peps, I have never been leaner nor more vascular. My shape is far more mesomorphic and I even saved £100 on my car insurance.

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[quote]Dave_ wrote:

[quote]Nidal AK wrote:

[quote]Dave_ wrote:

If I fail to dose my peptides for a few days, the softening effect is fairly rapid.[/quote]

so from what Dave is saying, adding GHRP-6 has short term effects, but when we talk about Mesomorphic Tendencies and the long term effects then it doesn’t aid that much.

what do you think BBB? (no need to give details, just a yes/no answer)

By the way Dave, thanks for sharing your experience with us. very usful info[/quote]

No problem. But allow me to elaborate on short term vs long term.

When I talk about short term effects, I am talking about the subjective “hardening/softening” effect. When dosing GHRP6 5+ times per day, my physique will have a leaner, drier look, which amplifies the vascular appearance. If I stop doing this (as I have recently, my stockpile has been depleted) then these effects are less pronounced fairly quickly (2-3 days).

Long term however, if by mesomorphic you mean positive changes in overall body shape, then yes this is retained. Also I have found that I can take longer off from training, and still maintain a generally well conditioned look. I doubt my skeleton has undergone any structural changes, but I think that long term dosing of GHRPs/GH gives your body the edge in terms of muscle retention/maintaining lower bf%, even when pepties are discontinued. The increase in vascularity also remains, however is somewhat obscured by the softening effect.

For instance, I have recently moved house and together with the general upheaval and lack of finding a decent gym in that time I maybe managed to get 1 training session per week, for about 3-4 weeks. General softening occurred, naturally, however I have found that I have kept all of my strength and my overall mesomorphic “shape” has not suffered. I am simply slightly smoother and appear slightly less vascular.

In summary, whilst dosing peps, I have never been leaner nor more vascular. My shape is far more mesomorphic and I even saved �£100 on my car insurance.
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So the combination of both HGH and GHRP6 will cause your body to shift to a mesomorphic shape and keep that look for longer time even with 1 session a week.
glad to hear that

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I’ve been using GHRP-6/CJC-1293 for just over a week now. It is too early to make any particularly useful comments, but here are some observations. Shooting 100mcg/50mcg (of the GHRP/CJC respectively) either IM or SubQ has no noticeable appetite stimulation effect for me (except in the morning because I have to wait a bit after the shot before I eat!).

A 200mcg/50mcg dose administered IM did have a very slight effect. It was essentially the difference between eating the planned final meal of the day, and that plus a tub of ice cream and some other junk. It seems like 300mcg+ is needed to get a big appetite surge from the GHRP. I believe this is consistent with what Dave and others have mentioned in other threads. I would recommend it if you are planning a cheat meal or want to go nuts with your PWO meal.

I have noticed that even the 100mcg/50mcg dose improved my sleep. I am normally a deep sleeper, but upon waking I have been feeling far more rested that I usually do.

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Interesting thread!

I two am about to commence a 12 week run with GHRP2 and Mod grf (100 mcg of both) dosed twice daily (before bed and prior to fasted cardio AM).

I’m also adding cissus and upping my glutamine intake to try and help heal my fractured thumb… Never know your luck in a big city.

BBB / Dave. Presumably you are shooting the GHRP just prior or together with the synthetic GH…

Just curious if you had considered adding a fast acting GHRH to the GHRP for the protocol?

I’m thinking I may try adding synthetic HGH e3d strait after my GRH and GHRP, shot. What do you guys think?

With some disappointment I’ll shoot these babies I.M. I’m too much of a pussy for I.V