Given some of my previous shenanigans on this forum, the mods and members (rightfully so) feel apprehensive around me. I'm happy just to post tbh.. even though the temptation to go rogue again is still there lol.
I feel some of the "strength shills" have been pulling the wool over too many noob's eyes for too long with their size vs strength dichotomy.
Without naming names, I remember a diminutive coach with good powerlifting leverages (as expected for someone who's 5 foot 6) and excellent pulling leverages (in particular) humble-bragging on his forum about how much stronger he was compared to a defensive lineman who was 100 pounds heavier and nearly a foot taller but struggled to bench his 3RM for one shaky rep (or something to that effect) and use it to fuel a "size vs strength" sermon, and remember chuckling to myself hoping our plucky little man never actually attempted to physically engage the football player (and get ragdolled despite his superior total).
The "train this way for strength WITHOUT size" shills are trying to equate "strength = strength-skill" to fleece morons of their lunch money while giving them quick SHORT TERM spikes in performance on a couple of gymlifts.
Point is, anyone who downplays the importance of hypertrophy in LONG TERM progression in a variety of gym lifts is taking you for a ride.