I've decided to abort the Clen idea for my fat fast, despite the well-respected opinion of Spongebob. Too many people have said that it just doesn't work for them. I don't want to risk this. Not only that, I have a cupboard full of MD6 (the L-PPA stuff). So my next question is how should I dose the additional ephedrine and caffeine? My thinking was to use 20mg E + 200mg C with the first two (of three)daily MD6 servings. Does this concur with your recommendations Bill? BTW Bill, if you see this thread, could you check out my T3 thread below? Ever grateful- Stu.