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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:
[quote]dk44 wrote:
While I agree with you in general, especially when standing around and encouraging the fight, I can understand why people don’t jump into these things.
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Dad who split up fight in McDonald’s shot dead
21/04/2011
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A DAD-of-four who split up a fight in a McDonald�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??s was shot dead moments after being told he wouldn�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??t see the morning.
Raymond Mitchell, 34, had only popped into the restaurant to buy a hot chocolate.
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But he apparently caused offence after splitting up two men fighting in the queue.
One of them, who had several gold teeth, shouted at Raymond: �??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??You are gonna die tonight, you are not gonna see the morning.�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??
The thug is then said to have phoned an accomplice to fetch a gun, yelling into his mobile: �??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??Bring me that thing.�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??
Raymond left the 24-hour McDonald�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??s but was chased into a cul-de-sac. The gun was then delivered and Mr Mitchell was beaten and pistol-whipped before being shot three times in an alley in Brixton, South London, at 6.50am on Sunday. Raymond, nicknamed Brown, was taken to hospital but died hours later.
One neighbour, who saw the shooting but was too terrified to be named, said: �??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??He was begging, literally begging for his life. I didn�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??t dare look out my window in case they saw me. I heard them laughing and swearing at him, calling him a �??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??b***h�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??. I heard them laughing afterwards as well.�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??
Raymond�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??s partner, who asked not to be named, said: �??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??I�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??m terrified. They�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??re still out there and they�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??ve not been caught. I�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??ve been told how they were laughing, actually laughing after they beat him and shot him. How could anybody do something like that?�??�??�??�??�??�??�??�?�¢??
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pretty sad story indeed.
There were times I wouldn’t hesitate to step into a fight and split people. These days, it’d entirely depend of the situation…
I don’t know, stories like these make me wonder. I can defend myself against a knife or a gun, if pointed at my face, but is it still worth helping people out nowadays? Shall I just mind my business and walk away?
In the case of that girl in MDs, I would’ve stepped in, I would’ve kicked them girls to the pulp. They could’ve brought the whole gang to beat me up, I would’ve bled or died for that poor girl, a total stranger to me… I don’t know, I can get quite irrational, I think I like taking risks and I hate vulnerable people being picked on.
Other people will think about their life, their family, their future etc… and do nothing. If the victim was giving a good fight against her attacker, honestly I’d just stand there and look on just like everybody else… and call the cops…[/quote]
Good Post Dark. It is a very interesting debate. I can see how people are shocked that someone doesn’t jump in and help, but can also understand how someone with a wife and kids at home that they are responsible for doesn’t want to risk the tide being turned on him. It is a sad world we live in where we have to make these choices. Makes you wonder if the world is getting worse, or if it has always been this way but technology keeps it in our face…[/quote]
As a londoner let me tell you that if you are in Brixton late at night and theres a fight going on, you don’t break it up no matter what you might do in any other circumstances.
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You missed an important part. If there’s fight going on involving black youths you avoid it. Might get flamed or called racist but its the truth. And people dont know until they have lived in south London for a while. It’s a serious problem that needs to be sorted.