[quote]PRCalDude wrote:
It’s amazing how the media is able to fact-check Joe the Plumber, but can’t seem to even use a search engine on terms like “Wright, Pfleger, Ayers, etc.” Weird. [/quote]
Just click on the “about us” tab and see who funds them entirely. That should answer your question.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
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I’m the “stupid motherfucker” yet you cannot see that I understand this point already. This argument is not about “Joe the Plumber” as the average working man. Media has turned it into a distraction by making the point of bringing up the “average working man and busuness owner” about one specific person – hence is it a distraction – you silly hick fuckwit!
I said in the debate thread that if Mccain wins, Joe the Plumber will be a key player and I believe we are beginning to see that.
All Joe the Plumber did, which it has nothing to do with him, is not only call Obama on his socialism, but lure the exalted one into flatly declaring it with a camera present.
Why it took that for people to discern the overt socialist ideology pounding you in the forehead every time he speaks is still a mystery. I knew about 12 seconds after discovering Obama’s existence that this was the case.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
I’m the “stupid motherfucker” yet you cannot see that I understand this point already. This argument is not about “Joe the Plumber” as the average working man. Media has turned it into a distraction by making the point of bringing up the “average working man and busuness owner” about one specific person – hence is it a distraction – you silly hick fuckwit![/quote]
I guess I’m a silly hick fuckwit too. WTF are you talking about?
Obviously this “specific person” - who has singlehandedly done what McCain has been able to do: to unmask Senator Government and reveal him for what he is - is representative of many others.
This is why he’s so threatening to Obama supporters; and why they are trying so hard to discredit the guy with bogus issues like back taxes, which is the REAL distraction here.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
I’m the “stupid motherfucker” yet you cannot see that I understand this point already. This argument is not about “Joe the Plumber” as the average working man. Media has turned it into a distraction by making the point of bringing up the “average working man and busuness owner” about one specific person – hence is it a distraction – you silly hick fuckwit!
I guess I’m a silly hick fuckwit too. WTF are you talking about?
Obviously this “specific person” - who has singlehandedly done what McCain has been able to do: to unmask Senator Government and reveal him for what he is - is representative of many others.
This is why he’s so threatening to Obama supporters; and why they are trying so hard to discredit the guy with bogus issues like back taxes, which is the REAL distraction here.
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Why do you respond to him? I don’t even read his posts, therefore I don’t get annoyed. Addition by subtraction.
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
Obviously this “specific person” - who has singlehandedly done what McCain has been able to do: to unmask Senator Government and reveal him for what he is - is representative of many others.
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Fine then leave it at that. Allowing the media to get away with helping to discredit him (for no obvious reason) and validating any serious discussion of the topic is stupid.
Not only that “Joe the Plumber” sounds like a typical American warmonger buffoon. His uneducated opinions do not matter in the slightest.
Has he commented on foreign policy?
[quote]Sloth wrote:
Has he commented on foreign policy?[/quote]
Only in so much as he believes America should be “unapologetic” for being the “greatest nation” on the planet.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Sloth wrote:
Has he commented on foreign policy?
Only in so much as he believes America should be “unapologetic” for being the “greatest nation” on the planet.[/quote]
Ya know I have been as objective and fair towards you as is humanly possible (in my opinion naturally), but you are beginning to descend into unrecoverable asswipery now. Of course there will be those who will chide me for not having observed that earlier and maybe they were right.
[quote]LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
rainjack wrote:
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
I’m the “stupid motherfucker” yet you cannot see that I understand this point already. This argument is not about “Joe the Plumber” as the average working man. Media has turned it into a distraction by making the point of bringing up the “average working man and busuness owner” about one specific person – hence is it a distraction – you silly hick fuckwit![/quote]
Yes. You are a stupid mother fucker. You know the type person who can tell you why it rains, but lacks the common sense God gave a water-headed pissant to come in out of the rain? You lack that common sense as well - which makes you a stupid mother fucker.
The fact that you can’t understand what Joe the Plumber represents is just sad. Not unexpected, but sad nonetheless.
I lol at all the leftist d-bags that still think nobama is going to lower taxes. What is it about his voting record, his truthfulness in general, the democratic party, the current economic situation, or his giant spending agenda that would lead you to believe he is actually going to lower taxes?
You have no reason to believe him, so you are just one of the sheep that takes every word out of obamassiah’s mouth as gospel.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Gambit_Lost wrote:
Not too much “abstract” here. Joe seems a decent sort, and he’d pay less taxes under an Obama administration than a McCain administration.
Yeah. Lets suck all the drive out of people so they all stay right where they are in life. Under the new baby jesus, advancement is scorned. Let the state give you money instead.
This is the most bullshit line of thinking I have seen on here in some time.
Much to the disappointment of liberal fuckwads - there are actually people in this society who dare to dream about being more than they are right now.
But now with the new baby jesus, you are penalized for advancement. [/quote]
You to can be more than you are right now. You could grow a brain.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
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And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
[quote]100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
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From the people’s republic of Mass.
Wadda shock.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
The fact that you can’t understand what Joe the Plumber represents is just sad. Not unexpected, but sad nonetheless.
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An dimwit who believes the wrong thing about tax plans and has no idea what he’s talking about?
Nope, I think everyone knows exactly what he’s about.
[quote]100meters wrote:
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
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Why is that odd? That’s what every person who doesn’t make a quarter million dollars a year but votes Republican has done the past 20 years.
It’s actually old hat for the GOP- it’s what their success was built on.
[quote]rainjack wrote:
Not paying = evasion, hense the lein, lein = convicted
now to read the rest of the thread
EDIT: Supply side economics doesn’t work for anyone that doesn’t already have a substantial amount of money long term, past the short term, it builds no true wealth for those that start poor.
Yes we all benefit for 1 maybe up to 4 or 8 years if there is a technological break through, but in the end, the poor are poorer than before recovery started. But the rich, yes those with money to start with sure do love supply side economics.
Don’t get my wrong; Nobama won’t be able to do what he wants, and some of it is stupid. But McCain isn’t going to help out anyone truly looking to try to become something if they come from a lower tier economic background, the math just doesn’t equate.
America needs a new party, and not Tree Huggers either.
[quote]Tiribulus wrote:
100meters wrote:
rainjack wrote:
LIFTICVSMAXIMVS wrote:
Mick28 wrote:
This is just more of the same from the lefties. If you can’t control the message attack the messenger.
Who the fuck cares about Joe the Plumber?
This is just more of the same distraction from talking about issues.
You are about a stupid motherfucker.
Go back to your theory books. Every time you venture into reality, you say stupid shit like this.
There are millions of Joe the Plumbers out here in the real world: They are the backbone of our economy and our society.
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
But you’ve accidentally nailed the point of providing targeted tax relief to the “backbone of our economy”, and that’s obviously why Obama wants to give “Joe” the “plumber” that tax cut.
From the people’s republic of Mass.
Wadda shock.
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Yes, I live in Mass., but reality is not unique to just this state.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
100meters wrote:
And all would benefit more under Obama more than McCain. Hence the humor of a guy willing to shoot himself in the foot to help support a quintile he’s not remotely close to. Odd really.
Why is that odd? That’s what every person who doesn’t make a quarter million dollars a year but votes Republican has done the past 20 years.
It’s actually old hat for the GOP- it’s what their success was built on.[/quote]
I suppose you’re right. It is funny though to see those McCainiacs cheering him on while he derides Obama’s tax policies that so clearly benefit the people booing them. McCain talks about “spreading the wealth” and they boo, too dumb to realize they’re cheering the “concentration of wealth”.
More precisely McCain’s stump is I’m going to give me and Cindy $700,000 (what Joe the plumber makes in 20 years) and I’m going to give you (the crowd) a kick in the ass! And the rubes just cheer and cheer.
On the other hand Obama is black. So gotta priortize these things.