[quote]Airtruth wrote:
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
This is where I disagree with everybody. I don’t think there’s anybody that can make him change his game plan. Any fighters that try to force it will get frustrated, lose their technique, or walk into a punch a la hatton.
The only reason I wouldn’t give him GOAT is because Leanord dominated way more weight classes. The only way I see Mayweather losing is against someone heavier who can take a punch and throw a more solid one.[/quote]
But that’s cause you’re seeing him against other guys who box in this day and age, when there’s a much smaller pool of good professional fighters.
Back in the day (70s and back) you had a HUGE pool of fighters, and guys who had those sort of genetic gifts that Mayweather has weren’t playing pro football like they’re doing now - they were fighting.
Leonard was as fast as Mayweather, but had an awesome jab and hit fucking HARD… he would beat Mayweather. Duran was a born fighter who could box, and threw lots of punches in combinations. If Mayweather decided to fight him, Duran would hurt him. Hearns, fighting at 147, was gigantic and hard to hide from. He had a great jab, his reach was tremendous, and he had a huge right hand behind it - so huge that it stunned Marvin Hagler at 160.
These guys were no joke dude. They fought more fights, against better competition, than May ever has, and more importantly, they were also genetically gifted people.
Think about how bad Sugar Ray Leonard mauled his father. Think about how badly Chavez mauled his uncle. When you’re in with truly great fighters, the game changes.
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Nah. I may not box, but I’ve been watching for since early 80’s and when I was older vhs fights with my pops. I realize this doesn’t only happen in boxing but in all sports that don’t have measured numbers people think the athletes were better in their child hood generations. It’s like thinking somebody is 6’5 when your a kid then realizing they’re only 6’ when you grow up.
I just don’t agree that SRL, Hearns, and Duran could handle Mayweather in a boxing match in todays ideology. Mayweather has nearly showed a willingness to lose a fight being patient enough to not let the other guy hit him. His rolls are nearly perfect, and he won’t succumb to one punch.
I remember thinking SRL was incredibly fast, but watching him over an over I realized his speed was just much faster than the guys he fought. It’s not going to catch Mayweather off guard, not until recently has Mayweather slowed down, and now that he has his intelligence has made up for it. Because of his speed SRL left himself open a lot. If Hearns could hit him, Mayweather would eat him up. Eventually SRL would either get frustrated and stop dancing, or try to gloat and lose the fight on decision.
Duran would lose too. I remember him as a fighter that can take a punch. Those are the ones that have the most trouble with Mayweather because he doesn’t mind sitting outside throwing one or two accurate as fuck jabs for 12 rounds. Winning by decision then going to the club.
It’s unfortunate for the fans, healthy for the fighters Mayweather is the true consummate boxer. All he care’s about is winning the match, not the fight. This is the only way I see anyone beating him in his prime is if judging or rules forced him to show a “fight”. It would be nice to see him in the 1930’s when boxers fought until knockout.[/quote]
we DO need a like button. I think if one fight here best says unanimous decision, its Mayweather v Duran.
I didn’t understand Durans comments about Money being done after 4 rounds. Floyd is in incredible shape. id hazard a guess that whilst not all will agree his ability is there with the ATGs, that his conditioning however is second to none.