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Maxed Out Supplement Wise?


#1

Biotest has not dropped anything new in what seems like years after a period of time where their were new products almost every 6 months. Nothing new overall in the supplement industry either?

Are we maxed out in the supplement realm or is there something big that I missed recently?


Anything new on the horizon from Biotest?
#2

I haven’t paid a whole lot of attention to the supplement industry recently, but all I’ve really noticed in recent years is a few companies coming out with workout drinks that would potentially compete with Plazma. I’ve tried a few, still prefer Plazma over everything else.

If Biotest ever does come out with a new product, i’d try it in a heartbeat, almost no matter what it is, lol.


#3

Nothing new under the sun.

As you said, haven’t seen anything new or different at all for a long while, and anything that is newish, is either a rehashed/rebranded retro supp, or some new-age rainforest extract with nothing to back it up.


#4

Thanks for the responses. I wonder if we indeed have hit a plateau & wonder what sort of research will lead to the next big thing?


#5

Just curious. I think the last major release was probably Indigo? Wondering if there’s anything exciting going on.


#6

It looks like the supplement industry needs a supplement that boosts creativity…


#7

If it works too well, it just gets banned. Didn’t this happen to a Biotest product? T2 or something?


#8

yeaaaaa i remember that. the spray. I bought it. I have no fucking idea if it worked. really an unusual product. I had no idea what I was doing with it, lol.


#9

T2 was out before my time.

Whatever T2 was, I’d be willing to wager it worked. Why? There’s an article, not on here, from after it’s discontinuation called “What it really takes to get bodybuilding-style lean” that was first available online a decade after (Q4 2011) T2 was banned (2001?) that references it being used by CT.


#10

i wasn’t thinking about the right product. I was thinking of 11-t. lol.

so i don’t know what the T2 formula was on here, but T2 in general is a thyroid hormone that is still used today, and I THINK T2 is actually still legal. Most companies just discontinued it. And I believe others, like T3 and T4, are not legal anymore. I’d have to look it up to be certain, I’ve never manipulated my thyroid hormones with drugs.

But yes, manipulating your thyroid hormones is certainly effective for weight loss, lol.


#11

Protein powder made from insects.

This would be fantastic. There are a few products like that out there but they have a price point above that of whey so I don’t see it taking off anytime soon. Might be good for the lactose intolerant crowd though? And a subset of vegetarians probably.


#12

Maybe legal in the US?

In Europe things are more stringent. One “nice” thing is that if a prescription drug is available OTC in another EU country then it can be imported for personal use, so at least there is that.

So, for instance, if my country started giving out medicinal marijuana it could be imported from Amsterdam for personal use.


#13

Vegetarians would not eat animals normally


#14

Several of my ovo-lacto vegetarian friends seem open to eating insects. Hence, the subset. And most pescatarians I’ve discussed it with also seem open to the idea. They always mention the “insectness” of shrimp.


#15

Well, shit.

The world’s insects are hurtling down the path to extinction, threatening a “catastrophic collapse of nature’s ecosystems”, according to the first global scientific review.

More than 40% of insect species are declining and a third are endangered


#16

Biotest had a ph called Mag-10. Was awesome.
Also had transdermal sprays Androsol and Nandrosol. Even published an article on crushing Finaplex pellets (think tren) and putting in Androsol. Of course I did it and that was easily the best thing I’ve ever used.

Newest in the industry are natural anabolics. Some are pretty good. Help with keepable gains.

Also ursolic acid spray. Very highly recommend it.

As with anything, have to be careful who manufactures it as some are quality and most are woefully underdosed.

If Biotest came out with something new, I’d definitely be all over it. Really like Indigo-3G and Plazma.


#17

Mag-10 is still being sold if I’m not mistaken?


#18

@Allberg Mag-10 now is a highly evolved protein supplement. I’m talking before the ph ban, Mag-10 was a liquid prohormone. Really great stuff.
The name is the same but that’s where similarities end.