Hate crimes = Thoughtcrime
red herring much?
thoughtcrime is pretty self explanatory, its just a thought.
theres a difference in thinking “i dont like black people” and going out an looking for black people to murder because you don’t like them, or beating them up at poll booths to stop them from voting.
unless theres something in the bill that i missed that you saw, saying its illegal to be a racist ect.
Allow me to explain.
If a white man kills a black man for being black, let us say he shall receive 80 years in jail.
If a white man kills a white man because he does not like his face, let us say he shall receive 70 years in jail.
They committed the same exact crime, but due to hate crime legislation, one gets ten more years, despite having committed IDENTICAL actions.
Hence, we must conclude he is being punished for his THOUGHTS. Those extra ten years are a punishment for having racial motives. I see no real difference between punishing motives and punishing thoughts. If the crime is the same, they should receive the same sentence, regardless of the thoughts that motivated the crime.
Those things you mentioned, “looking for black people to murder because you don’t like them, or beating them up at poll booths to stop them from voting,” are ALREADY CRIMES.
Murder is already a crime. Assault is already a crime. Assaulting someone to prevent them from voting (I believe, correct me if I’m wrong) is a federal offense. Why then, is hate crime legislation necessary, unless you want to punish the thoughts that the perpetrators had while they commited their heinous act?[/quote]
I’m with Beowulf on this one - it makes no sense to punish someone more for the same crime simply because their motive offends a certain segment of the population . . .
Say I kill someone because I hate gays - I get 80 years, But If I had killed a white hetero married business man because I hated his successful image - I only get 60 years? Smae crime, same affect, same act - one’s worse than the other?
And don’t try to justify this by citing the legal classifications of murder (manslaughter, murder etc) - that speaks to negligent, unintended, premeditated, etc.
This automatically makes the murder of anyone not in that group of less importance than the “special” group. I can hate someone for their shoes or their sexual preference, or perhaps I just love their taste (for all the Dahmer’s out there) - why does my internal emotional justification matter more in one case than another?