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Matt Furey

Anyone out there bought Matt Furey’s traning program for personal trainers? If so, how is it? Let me know what you think & if it’s any good? Thanks!

The $1000 course on how to earn $1M as a personal trainer?

Yes, that’s the one. I haven’t seen anything like it on the net. And he’s a name I feel is trustworthy.

Does he teach Rex-kwan-do?

Apayne- Napoleon Dynamite was some kind of funny

And for Bruce Lee, I would stay the hell away from Furey and his snake oil. I’ve met him, he seems OK, but his products are nothing out of the ordinary.
If I wanted to learn how to make more $ as a trainer, i would read sales and marketing materials and/or pay for a Staley/Chek/Poliquin mentoring program.

Much more reputable and infinitely more knowledgeable about the business of personal training. Remember, Matt himself has admitted his business was not very good, except for the years he read Psycho-Cybernetics. And now he sells a $400 CYberbetics course.

Ha ha! What a d#ck!

[quote]John K wrote:
The $1000 course on how to earn $1M as a personal trainer?
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Step 1: Create “course” from info in public domain.

Step 2: Get 1000 people to buy course.

Step 3: Laugh.

[quote]apayne wrote:
Does he teach Rex-kwan-do?[/quote]

And can he train me to become a cage fighter. Or help me through a foot ball a quarter mile like back in '82

Don’t laugh BB-

He caught me - I paid $50 for a book of Farmer Burns’ mail order course. I could have printed it for free -its available at sandowplus.co.uk !!

GREAAT website btw

Um . . . he actually did give a seminar on how to do this…

[quote]BostonBarrister wrote:

Step 1: Create “course” from info in public domain.

Step 2: Get 1000 people to buy course.

Step 3: Laugh.[/quote]

Besides, if there was one product I’d buy from Matt, it’d be this (and perhaps I will). After all, his products aren’t special and he’s making a shitload.

Say what you want. His sales letters are works of art. And he obviously knows how to draw people to his site.

if u buy a furey product…suicide yourself…

Furey is a rip off. super expensive stuff
that you can find elsewhere. He also does his best to stay away from more educated consumers…ie. experienced mma guys and the like. He does that for a reason.

He is a marketing genius however and if he would just run a course on how to get rich with halfway bogus material, I would sign up for that.

I have not seen it. Ryan Lee’s program is very good if you do know much about marketing. Otherwise, there are a few things to know to make six figures as a trainer.

  1. Get products made (e-books, DVD’s) and learn how to write good ad copy. Read Dan Kennedy’s Ultimate Sales letter.

  2. Learn how to do and promote seminars. I make between $3000-$5000 at my seminars for 6-8 hours worth of work. However, the hard part is not teaching, but getting people there. Again, you have to know how to market and you have to be a good public speaker. Most importantly you have to be passionate about the material covered.

  3. Write articles and get them published. In addition to getting paid, you get great advertising. Basically, you are getting paid to advertise in a magazine. Cannot beat that.

for free promotion, contact the local news channels and newspapers and tell them your story. I have been on TV several times doing this.

Make sure you get a good website with tons of content and have several affiliate programs to monetize your visitors.

Just a few tips

Mike Mahler

Awesome stuff.
Good to hear positive feedback for Ryan Lee, I recently subscribed to his email thing. (Although I must say the emails he sends out aren’t very great).

[quote]Mike Mahler wrote:
I have not seen it. Ryan Lee’s program is very good if you do know much about marketing. Otherwise, there are a few things to know to make six figures as a trainer.

  1. Get products made (e-books, DVD’s) and learn how to write good ad copy. Read Dan Kennedy’s Ultimate Sales letter.

  2. Learn how to do and promote seminars. I make between $3000-$5000 at my seminars for 6-8 hours worth of work. However, the hard part is not teaching, but getting people there. Again, you have to know how to market and you have to be a good public speaker. Most importantly you have to be passionate about the material covered.

  3. Write articles and get them published. In addition to getting paid, you get great advertising. Basically, you are getting paid to advertise in a magazine. Cannot beat that.

for free promotion, contact the local news channels and newspapers and tell them your story. I have been on TV several times doing this.

Make sure you get a good website with tons of content and have several affiliate programs to monetize your visitors.

Just a few tips

Mike Mahler [/quote]

[quote]Sonny S wrote:
Don’t laugh BB-

He caught me - I paid $50 for a book of Farmer Burns’ mail order course. I could have printed it for free -its available at sandowplus.co.uk !!

GREAAT website btw[/quote]

Got me too I got it for half price cause I bought a video.

Seeing Mike’s reply above, it reminds me what Steve Maxwell said in Mike’s interview: “Matt showed me the accessibility of high rep bodyweight exercises. He made that training accessible to regular people and showed you how to start.” That is, he targets the average Joe/Jane that do not have access or have had bad experience with commerical gym.

Just that I don’t know how good he is on other stuff outside of exercising using bodyweight.

BLF- do you feel that Furey is a successful businessman? How? do you feel he can make you a good businessman too?

Business and training both take hard work. Both have information available for free similar to information being sold. I believe Mr Mahler just gave you $1000 worth of free information. I believe there are other people that will do the same for you when you look for them.

While some of the training info Matt Furey dished out over the course of 6 yrs or so have been workable, I cannot say that his methods of marketing are as appealing. They actually deter the smarter trainees who would have loved to do some stuff he distributes, while sucking in the trainees that are looking for a savior. At least that’s what I’ve seen. $1000 to make $1 million just seems to be another one of the professional marketing scams he has offered right next to why we shouldn’t lift weights.

[quote]geekboy wrote:
Seeing Mike’s reply above, it reminds me what Steve Maxwell said in Mike’s interview: “Matt showed me the accessibility of high rep bodyweight exercises. He made that training accessible to regular people and showed you how to start.” That is, he targets the average Joe/Jane that do not have access or have had bad experience with commerical gym.

Just that I don’t know how good he is on other stuff outside of exercising using bodyweight.[/quote]

Bad experience with a commercial gym? What did someone throw some free weights at them? In my experience no one says anything to me at the gym, besides asking if anyone is using a particular weight.

Matt Furey is an interesting guy. I have very little knowledge of his lastest “marketing pitch.” However, in order to properly judge Furey you really have to look at the total package.

He was a former Divison II Wrestling Champion, no small feat. He was also the first caucasion to win a very prestigious Chinese grappling championship (the name escapes me) on mainland China. So…we know he can grapple at a pretty high level.

Other dimensions: I purchased some tapes from him in the late 90’s. They were “odd object lifting” how he trained for his Chinese championship and a few others. I thought that the content was good, although the production quality was quite poor.

He leaves the world of Barbells and Dumbbells claiming that they are dangerous and inferior to bodyweight only movements…That smelled pretty funny to me. Especially in light of the fact that he gained his reputation training with weights. Upon a closer analysis one can see that he was not about to sell Barbells through the mail. He already sold about everything he could relative to a tape series regarding weights. Therefore, he had an epiphany, body weight movements! Well now, these can be sold through the mail.

On the bright side he in fact exposed plenty of people to body weight movements who ordinarily would be doing nothing at all. That’s a good thing.

I think to get the proper handle on Furey one has to think of him as a business man first and foremost. Everything he does seems directed at making money. This is what makes many suspicious of him. However, that does not make him a bad person. It does make him an ambitious one.

Overall, when purchasing a Furey product tread cautiously. Then again, I would say that about certain other fitness gurus who many of you worship…that’s a different post. :slight_smile:

[quote]ZEB wrote:

I think to get the proper handle on Furey one has to think of him as a business man first and foremost. Everything he does seems directed at making money. This is what makes many suspicious of him. However, that does not make him a bad person. It does make him an ambitious one.
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I agree with you Zeb. Especially since others publish their material on the net for far less and seem more reputable. Furey doesn’t seem to be a bad option when looking for bodyweight exercises, only an expensive one.

For those of you who would like an alternative, check Wayne Fisher (aka scrapper) site at trainforstrength

He even give sample workout, and photos of his exercises. His training video is on my christmas wish list
(Can’t prepare too early)