[quote]Todd S. wrote:
Professor X wrote:
Todd S. wrote:
I agree, also you will find you need to constantly asess and change your values. Massive eating is just a suggestion. You might find you need way more or much less.
Personally I am about 195 14%bf and I have been gaining muscle and loosing fat with 3000 ish calories a day. I should be closer to 4000 according to the calculator.
How much progress have you made over the last two months?
I went from 190 to 195 and drop a percent in fat.
I’ve only been back to the gym for about 4 months so I assume some of it is from being new (again). Right now I do want to try and lose a bit of fat, I know I’m not huge yet but I would really like to see some abs down there, and more leg def.
I figure once I get my diet nailed and I cut a bit more fat I will need to eat more to really get growing.
I think people are generally making a mistake by dieting so often and “gaining” for short periods of time all in fear of fat gain. Unless you are competing, you are setting yourself up for screwing up your metabolism in the long run and making overall LESS progress than you would if you simply spent some decent time gaining quality body weight.
Also, being “back in the gym” implies a lack of consistency. No matter what someone does, if they can’t stick with this for years without quitting for months or years at a time, your progress will be stunted. Yes, those do sound like beginner gains. That also makes me wonder why someone like that would give advice as if “gaining muscle and losing fat” at the same time should be the goal to shoot for when training. While it can definitely happen, those looking for that as a true goal without ever focusing on one or the other with all out intensity will end up running in circles or making less progress.