Manchester Terror Attack

Some dark humor I just read on social media:

“Globalism” is a Libyan Muslim in England putting an Iraq-designed bomb made with German chemicals and Polish nails in a Chinese backpack to blow up an African-American music concert starring an Italian-American singer who practices Judaism."

Well if we are going to follow this line of reason and I am not advocating for or against it, a simple quiz and a firing squad could resolve a multitude of issues in the west.
A simple test could eliminate pretty much everybody who is a threat. I submit the test, feel free to add or subtract…

Do you believe that females should have their clitoris removed, ever?
Do you believe that women are obligated to wear a bag showing only their eyes?
Do you believe gays should be shot, physically or emotionally tortured?
Do you believe rape is the fault of the female victim?
Do you believe that anybody who insults the prophet deserves, death, physical or emotional punishment?
Do you believe Islam is to be delivered by the sword?
Do you condemn attacks against violence, but condone it at any level, because the victims are in any possible way, enemies of islam?

Anybody answering ‘yes’ to even one of the questions above should be should be shot, killed and removed from Earth instantly. These are dangerous ideas. And the people who hold any of the above ideas are dangerously bad and stupid people. They are a danger to all of us. To say differently is honestly, a load of horseshit. If they answer yes, they want us dead and will see to it at any opportunity.

EDIT: I lied, I am for it. This is a war of ideas and ours are right, better and correct. These others are lunatics.

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I would be for that, but before that I just don’t understand how the first amendment would prevent the USA from not welcoming whoever it wants.

I don’t understand how a judge can lift a ban because of “animosity”. Seriously? I hope there would be more against that religion actually.

Man, all I can say is… This ain’t exactly the easiest of topics to deal with, at least in a ‘fair’ manner.


Do you believe that females should have their clitoris forcefully removed, ever? Should they decide not to, do you have any intention of doing something about it on our land?

Do you believe that women are obligated to wear a bag showing only their eyes? Should they decide not to, do you have any intention of doing something about it on our land?

Do you believe gays should be shot, physically or emotionally tortured? Do you have any intention of carrying out said beliefs on our land?

Do you believe that anybody who insults the prophet deserves, death, physical or emotional punishment? Do you have any intention of carrying out said beliefs on our land?

Do you believe Islam is to be delivered by the sword? Do you have any intention of carrying out said beliefs on our land?

Do you condemn attacks against violence, but condone it at any level, because the victims are in any possible way, enemies of islam? Is there any intent of partaking in such attacks against us?


Edited it, additions in bold.

I removed

because that is strictly an opinion. People have all sorts of fucked up beliefs nowadays anyways.

It’s not so much a test but rather a two part check list. But let’s be real, no one(on an individual level) is going to announce their intent to attack someone right? Unless you’re ISIS or something that is. Beliefs are beliefs, actions are actions. The questions are essentially broken up into 2 parts now.

If it’s a yes to the former, well fuck you but that IS your opinion. If it’s a yes(or if there are even hints pointing) to the latter, deal with them with extreme prejudice. If it’s yes to the former/ no to the latter, stay in your godforsaken land and do whatever you please, so long as you keep it to yourself. This is assuming we’re talking bout putting the country(and it’s ideals) first. If we were to put humanity first, I agree with the original list, absolutely.

For example, I’m sure there are some ‘members of Christianity’ in the US who firmly believe that homosexuals should be killed. That being said though, they’re not doing it so they’re pretty much left to mind their own business.

The degeneracy continues

The Independent is very good IMHO, clearly better than cosmopolitan :grin:

It really isn’t a total rag at all and isn’t at all comparable to the mail and sun.

The Telegraph is very right wing, hence it’s nickname “The Torygraph”.

And the Independent is Labour/Lib Dem Pravda, what is your point?

Hence why I put it on the level of the Guardian, or the Telegraph on the edit. It calling itself the “Independent” doesn’t make it any less the partisan source that it, in fact, is.

See, this is where it gets tricky.

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I go BBC first and foremost, then independent. Neither are excellent just good not full of drivel.

Everything is partisan, just a matter of deciding which you like.

Which is part of my point. It isn’t as bloodless as its name would indicate.

BBC, FT, the Times, Business Insider for news.

Spectator, Times & Guardian for Op-eds.

The independent’s quality has diminished sharply since it went fully online IMO.

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The United States Constitution does not protect the rights of non-citizens beyond its borders. People can be banned from the USA for any reason, including religion. The recent highly-political district court opinions and 9th circuit opinions will be overturned, as they are directly opposite to all other jurisprudence before them.

To give a notable example, it is illegal for former or current members of the Nazi party to immigrate to the USA. They don’t have to have ever been a physical threat. Their ideas are incompatible with American civilization.

There is no meaningful legal distinction to be made between Islamists and Nazis in this regard.

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If the Government knows about anyone with these ideologies they need to be jailed, deported or go on a helicopter ride.

The Manchester bomber was known and so was his father but nothing was done till to late.

I was just responding to your comments, you cited The Telegraph :slight_smile:

The Independent certainly isn’t as left wing as it used to be

That’s cool, you called it a “total rag”, I was just pointing out that it wasn’t, and that it wasn’t comparable to some of the ‘papers’ you then went on to mention.

Which I then clarified in an edit and yes, it is. Only in the wildest imagination of a fan could a paper actively stumping for Corbyn be “less left wing than it used to be.”

Did it used to be the Socialist worker?

Hahaha.

Every paper on news source has a political agenda that they go about with, just depends how much of that agenda warps the actual news they are reporting on.

You are right, I should rephrase.
“Do you believe women should be forced to wear a bag covering every square millimeter of her body save a tiny slit for the eyes?”

I guarantee that if you ‘eliminate’ every person who answers ‘yes’ to one of those quiz questions, you will eliminated every islamic terrorist in the quiz area. Not all people who believe draconian things are terrorists, but every terrorist believes draconian things.

Isn’t that the truth. I have no problem with head scarves if they choose to wear them for whatever reason but the Niqab and Burka are down right anti-western.
They are also there’s a yuge security issue with full head coverings.

I am just concerned about a pattern of belief or thought that imposes heavy penalties on things that are otherwise nobodies business. I don’t care if a female wants to wear a burlap sack. I do care if she is made to wear one under penalty of physical punishment.
I do not care if you believe in Allah and that Mohamed was his prophet. I do care if you put a knife to someones throat who believes otherwise.
I don’t care if you are an antisemite, I do care if you want to kill Jews and destroy Israel, for merely existing.

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Actions over thoughts. Yet thoughts lead to actions.