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Maintenance By The DAY, Not The WEEK


#1

Why do people calculate macros on a weekly schedule? It's obvious that a 200lb lifter doesn't need 4,000 calories to sit on his ass on an off day, but he might need it during a 2hr leg workout + conditioning.

Why does nobody seem to take this into consideration?


#2

Fairly sure a lot of people do take this into consideration? Look at the chobbs and marzouk logs, Zara has them eating less on their off days.


#3

Pretty sure anyone who cycles Carbs fluctuates in calories from day to day.


#4

carb cycling

also I like to get in carbs the day before anything big planned


#5

[quote]karite36 wrote:
he might need it during a 2hr leg workout + conditioning.
[/quote]

What about the off/recovery day AFTER a 2hr leg workout + conditioning?

Personally, if given the choice, I will eat less carbs and less in general on a leg day just so that I’m lighter and have less in my stomach. I’d save them all for after, or even the day after, and possibly night before.


#6

Hmmm yeah. But I mean it seems that most tutorials on this site and others that have you “find you maintainence” seem to not take that into consideration. Of course people that carb/calorie cycle would fluctuate.

It just seemed like a thing that was odd. Or even having “training day” and “off day” macros when an arm day obviously requires less than a leg day.

I’m a bit of a numberphile.


#7

Every tutorial or calculator I’ve seen that finds your maintenance also accounts for lifting days/cardio. For example: Light/Medium/Heavy Intensity Lifting or Light/Medium/Heavy Intensity Cardio and for how long you do it on those days.


#8

[quote]karite36 wrote:
Hmmm yeah. But I mean it seems that most tutorials on this site and others that have you “find you maintainence” seem to not take that into consideration. Of course people that carb/calorie cycle would fluctuate.

It just seemed like a thing that was odd. Or even having “training day” and “off day” macros when an arm day obviously requires less than a leg day.

I’m a bit of a numberphile.[/quote]

Well you can make adjustments based on the intensity of the workout, body parts worked.

Maintenance is not really what to eat to maintain your weight daily, but just a number that if you consistently eat over a week’s period to keep your weight steady.

I think the difference in eating 3000 cals 7 days a week

vs

eating 2000/3000/4000/3000/2000/3000/4000 really matters too much


#9

If you, on average, eat what the calculator says is maintenance then you will theoretically maintain. If on average it is above or below then you will gain or lose…


#10

[quote]karite36 wrote:
Hmmm yeah. But I mean it seems that most tutorials on this site and others that have you “find you maintainence” seem to not take that into consideration. Of course people that carb/calorie cycle would fluctuate.

It just seemed like a thing that was odd. Or even having “training day” and “off day” macros when an arm day obviously requires less than a leg day.

I’m a bit of a numberphile.[/quote]

It’s just easier and often it doesn’t seem to matter in terms of results. There’s an explanation.

(I’m not saying that carb cycling is useless but it’s a slightly advanced tool)