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M1T Cycle Suggestions

GOING TO START A M1T/4AD CYCLE FOR 3 WEEKS.

CURRENTLY 21YEARS OLD 190LBS. 11% B/F

LOOKING TO START AT
20MG - M1T
STACK WITH 4/AD AT 40MG
Before cycle weeks b4====== 1000mg Milk Thistle ed
Weeks 1-3 ====== 20 MG M1T

PCT:
Weeks 4-7 ====== Nolva 40mg ed
Vitamin B, Milk Thistle and Triblus to get test back to normal levels.

Cellmss Creatine will also be used during entire cycle.
Looking to bank 4000Calories, 300g protein, 200 carbs.

Any comments, suggestions and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is welcome.

[quote]youngbuck18 wrote:
GOING TO START A M1T/4AD CYCLE FOR 3 WEEKS.

CURRENTLY 21YEARS OLD 190LBS. 11% B/F

LOOKING TO START AT
20MG - M1T
STACK WITH 4/AD AT 40MG
Before cycle weeks b4====== 1000mg Milk Thistle ed
Weeks 1-3 ====== 20 MG M1T

PCT:
Weeks 4-7 ====== Nolva 40mg ed
Vitamin B, Milk Thistle and Triblus to get test back to normal levels.

Cellmss Creatine will also be used during entire cycle.
Looking to bank 4000Calories, 300g protein, 200 carbs.

Any comments, suggestions and CONSTRUCTIVE criticism is welcome. [/quote]

I would consider what I’m about to say “constructive” criticism.

Please drop the prohormones. They are poorly researched drugs (there are NO studies behind them), unusually toxic (Very toxic, in the case of M1T) and give less impressive gains than real AAS.

Honestly, why would you consider doing M1T over real AAS. M1T is gonna shut you down hard, wreak havoc with your lipid profiles, make you feel like SHIT during your cycle and PCT will be a bitch. To top it all off, we know very little about the long term safety of this drug (or other prohormones).

Bottom line: M1T is a dirty, unsafe, poorly researched drug to which there are dozens of viable alternatives. Risk to benefit ratio is not worth it in my opinion.

Save your money, find a real source (if access to AAS is your problem) and do a real, well researched cycle which will give you solid gains far in excess of what M1t will give you with a fraction of the side effects.

Sorry if that wasnt what you wanted to hear but it needs to be said.

CD

Here, here.
Using prohormones is akin to going to a steakhouse and ordering a hamburger.
Often real gear is cheaper and undoubtedly much more effective than PH’s.

WHAT WOULD YOU SUGGEST AS A BEGINNER
CYCLE?

Honestly you don’t sound ready but…

I always say go with 400-600 mg’s EW of test eth or cyp for your first time. No stacking or unnecessarily frequent injections, just a simple cycle to figure out how your going to react.

EDIT: Everyone is going to say do a lot more research… and you need to.

Solid beginner cycle would be 500mgs Test per week for 12 weeks. That’s jsut an example though.

But you need to do a lot more research, learn about these drugs and construct a cycle yourself. You need to understand what your injecting into your body. Read all you can and dont jump into this blind.

when you have done this you can come back to us, ask us questions about your cycle and we’ll be glad to help.

I’ve tried M1T and I blew up. I’m talking 12lbs over 3 weeks and my strength went through the roof, all at 10mg a day for the first week and 20mg a day for the last 2. The problem was I lost it all and felt like shit after. I also had absurd lower back pumps while on. My pct was shitty at best though, so who knows what would’ve happened had I planned better. Where did you get your M1T if you don’t mind my asking?

I’ve used M1T a few times and it is very effective- +10 lbs in two weeks at 10mg a day no problem. It does make you feel like crap though- very lethargic. If you’re going to take it I’d take the whole dose before bed. It’s at least as effective as dbol but doesn’t have the feel good effect that dbol tends to have on me. It does shut you down very hard and your balls tend to disapear within three weeks. The best way to use it - if you’re going to, is to kick start a cycle of something else. Stay on it for two weeks top IMHO. Cheers :slight_smile:

Doh! Posted twice for some reason. Sorry.

I’ve used M1T twice at 10-20mg/day, both times I stopped around the 2wk mark because the sides were outweighing the gains. Lethargy, aching gnads, general flu-like symptoms, etc. I also got the early gyno “itchy nips”, despite the statment on the bottle that M1T doesn’t convert…

I’d agree that it’s powerful stuff, but I think the above advice to sort out some proper gear and PCT is sound.

sounds fair, ive done lots of research. know my stuff.
Get it from local supplement store. Dont want to mention any names though.

thanks for the input though.