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M-Drol P-Plex Stack Questions...


#1

I did a search for this stack, and only found 4 posts talking about stacking these products.

I've been making pretty good gains this year, haven't missed a workout or a meal in as long as I can remember. I guy I work with (pretty big guy, and very lean), suggested this stack to finish off my bulking phase after the New Year.

Could you guys give me feedback about this stack, and the cycle recommended?

I'm 28 years old, 6'1", 235lbs. somewhere around 18% bodyfat. I've been taking Sizeon for creatine, and a few cycles of Novedex as a mild estrogen blocker this year. Again, I take my training and nutrition seriously and have made decent gains in all areas of training. I'd like to end my bulking phase in April with a bang.

I can't say what my max lifts are, because I've been focusing on reps of 6-10. I can say I'm stronger than I've ever been. Thanks for your time, and suggestions. I work out at a rec. center so getting gear doesn't seem like an option for me even if I wanted to.


#2

You cycled Nolvadex ON ITS OWN ???

Just a shot in the dark, but did you per chance TEST your estrogen levels before/during/after ?

And why would anyone do a cycle of Nolva ?

I usually just stay quiet but you managed to get me to post here lol, craziest “cycle” i have ever seen


#3

Not Nolvadex, Novedex XT. Took it for 8 weeks as it suggests, then off for 4-6 weeks.


#4

Nobody has used this stack?


#5

[quote]300andabove wrote:
You cycled Nolvadex ON ITS OWN ???

Just a shot in the dark, but did you per chance TEST your estrogen levels before/during/after ?

And why would anyone do a cycle of Nolva ?

I usually just stay quiet but you managed to get me to post here lol, craziest “cycle” i have ever seen[/quote]

Yes he clearly had an “E” not an “A”.

Mdrol is superdrol and pheraplex is DMT, which is a very oldschool designer steroid from the 60’s or 70’s.

Pheraplex is going to be banned soon I feel, its simply been obscure up until recently, but its clearly a steroid.

Both are methylated and both are quite strong.

Im not sure if pheraplex is still obtainable, but even if it is you need to consider that your planning to run 2 methyls at the same time.


#6

Thanks for the reply. Since this would be my first PH use, would you suggest M-Drol alone (with liver support), then PCT?

Is there a better avenue to take in using a PH for the first time? I’m not a newb to lifting, or eating enough quality food to gain weight, just want to take it up a notch.

Thanks again.


#7

On your first run with ANYTHING strong and hormonal your going to see massive gains.

20 pounds and the like.

Id run just the superdrol (Mdrol) to start with, youll see 20 pounds and massive strength gains.

If you stack the two you’ll probably see about the same results. But youll increase the unpleasantness of the run, and increase your chances of liver damage.

Hence your first run should not be a stack.

Use the Mdrol+phera stack later on if you feel like it. But for now, superdrol is plenty strong enough.

To give you an idea, most people would disapprove of your starting with superdrol, theyd probably have you start with something weaker.


#8

Great, thanks for the feedback. Did you check out the PCT on the website? Basically Novedex XT tapered.


#9

[quote]jermag27 wrote:
Great, thanks for the feedback. Did you check out the PCT on the website? Basically Novedex XT tapered. [/quote]

Superdrol is drugs, novEdex will not cut it.

Drugs on cycle needs drugs for PCT.

Youll need NolvAdex, Clomid, or Torefemine.

Get an SERM or risk estrogen rebound, lack of sex drive, gyno, weakness, loss of gains, etc.

On an unrelated note:

These drugs are available for “research purposes”, you know for animals, look around, if you cant find anything PM me.


#10

Thanks man, I’ll do some research tonight.


#11

[quote]300andabove wrote:
You cycled Nolvadex ON ITS OWN ???

Just a shot in the dark, but did you per chance TEST your estrogen levels before/during/after ?

And why would anyone do a cycle of Nolva ?

I usually just stay quiet but you managed to get me to post here lol, craziest “cycle” i have ever seen[/quote]

I have seen many natural strength athletes do this as it is not against any of the rule books that I have seen.


#12

[quote]CrewPierce wrote:
300andabove wrote:
You cycled Nolvadex ON ITS OWN ???

Just a shot in the dark, but did you per chance TEST your estrogen levels before/during/after ?

And why would anyone do a cycle of Nolva ?

I usually just stay quiet but you managed to get me to post here lol, craziest “cycle” i have ever seen

I have seen many natural strength athletes do this as it is not against any of the rule books that I have seen.[/quote]

Do you happen to know why? I’m curious because I haven’t heard of it before.


#13

I would second westclock’s info.
I’ve used S-Drol and PP, with great results. But the sides did get a little bad in week 4.

Just to give you a heads up M-drol, and all other S-drol clones, have been attributed to a lot of sides. I cannot cosign them, except for the aforementioned experience with s-drol/pp in EvoLabs Anevol. I can tell you that you will feel different for the few weeks you’re on.

I am one of S-drol’s biggest fans. I have made incredible gains everytime I’ve used it (3 times.)

Eat like a horse, lift heavy shitfor reps, and carb up to battle the lethargy.

Also if no one told you, get off the creatine while you’re on the s-drol. Save it for PCT. And you must get a SERM for PCT.


#14

I was never big on orals, I tried some a bombs and ds back in the day but you have to take them every day and they can tend to wipe you out. I did try some phs and they do work but the super"m-drol" is the only thing that has ever given me a gyno flair up!
I saw this product on a supplement site,I think its called tribolic or something stupid like that, anyway it has superdrol-halodrol and phereplex in it! They might as well call it “liver-killerbol”.Friggin nuts.


#15

oh yeah theres some blends out there that are ridiculous. I’m pretty sure Omnevol and Testanate 50 are the exact same as what you mentioned.

When I did Anevol its becuse the guy at max muscle told me that it was a “mild compound” i could run for “4-8 weeks”

Fortunatly a few forums saved my life and my liver. 15 mg s-drol and 15 mg pplex a day isnt the hardcorest of the hardcore but it def isnt a mild compound by any stretch of the imagination


#16

Yeah we had a guy running a triple methyl WITH M1T.

He just told me he was on my M1T, he didnt tell me about the triple methyl.

Ends up it was 10 mg M1T, and two other meythls I cant quite remember.

Ends up he was taking upwards of 40mg/day M1T and atleast 40 mg of other methylated compounds.

He started getting sick, nausea, and all that, I told me to give me his shit and let me look at it, the M1T was underground lab stuff, guy I know made it, I thought it might have been overdosed or something.

Then he showed me the other bottle, he thought it was just a M5aa, that was the one that was the triple methyl and an M5aa.

Craziest shit Ive ever seen. Who puts 5 compounds, and 3 prosteroids in one bottle ?

I gave him a bottle of nolva, and told him stop taking it all immediately.

He still had to go to the hospital, it was a tad too late by that point, he was fine after a week, but I doubt hes ever going to do that shit again.


#17

[quote]Westclock wrote:
jermag27 wrote:
Great, thanks for the feedback. Did you check out the PCT on the website? Basically Novedex XT tapered.

Superdrol is drugs, novEdex will not cut it.

Drugs on cycle needs drugs for PCT.

Youll need NolvAdex, Clomid, or Torefemine.

Get an SERM or risk estrogen rebound, lack of sex drive, gyno, weakness, loss of gains, etc.

On an unrelated note:

These drugs are available for “research purposes”, you know for animals, look around, if you cant find anything PM me.[/quote]

PM sent.


#18

I heard that superdrol was a progestin… would that mean nolva wouldn’t be recommende as pct?


#19

[quote]Tumbles wrote:
I heard that superdrol was a progestin… would that mean nolva wouldn’t be recommende as pct?[/quote]

More likely that it causes some sort of suppression which leads to nasty rebound.


#20

where did all these broscientists get the info that superdrol was a progestin? I’ve had multiple people on another board tell me how i shouldn’t use novla as pct for my m-drol, e-stane cycle.