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Low Test at 20 with New Gyno, Need Help


#1

This is kind of a long story but I hope you'll take some time to read it. I'm 20 years old. 5"11 172lb 10% body fat.

Testosterone : 393
Estradiol: 30
Thyroid: 4.86 (slightly high)

Now, a month before my blood test, I got a small lump under my nipple towards the right side. It's not visible but I feel it and it's gotten a little bigger since then. The nipple gets hard easily now and feels sensitive to the touch. I have no idea how I got gyno at 20 YEARS OLD without ever having taken any prohormones or steroids. I figured my ratio of test and estrogen was off.

I have a few questions.

1) Does this mean the only option I have is to take an AI at a low dose for life or to take TRT at a low dose to stabilize levels?

2) I started taking letro 3 days ago and I can touch my nipple again, it's not sensitive anymore. I'm following C. Bino's gyno reversal protocol. I'm going to 2.5mg until lump dissapears and then tapering off while adding in nolvadex to prevent a rebound.

My biggest question is this. I had a cycle ready to start pinning in a few days (test E for 12 weeks at 500mg). I'm on day 4 of letro at the moment, I was planning on taking the letro throughout the first few weeks of the test and then tapering off and adding aromasin and nolvadex for a few weeks then tapering off the nolva and keeping the aromasin throughout the rest of the cycle. Would that be ok? Can I use letro for weeks 1-2 on test at 2.5mg? I figured test e doesn't peak for about 4-6 weeks so I could reverse the gyno meanwhile and maintain my sex drive while I'm on it.


#2

[quote]john131 wrote:
This is kind of a long story but I hope you’ll take some time to read it. I’m 20 years old. 5"11 172lb 10% body fat.

Testosterone : 393
Estradiol: 30
Thyroid: 4.86 (slightly high)

Now, a month before my blood test, I got a small lump under my nipple towards the right side. It’s not visible but I feel it and it’s gotten a little bigger since then. The nipple gets hard easily now and feels sensitive to the touch. I have no idea how I got gyno at 20 YEARS OLD without ever having taken any prohormones or steroids. I figured my ratio of test and estrogen was off.

I have a few questions.

  1. Does this mean the only option I have is to take an AI at a low dose for life or to take TRT at a low dose to stabilize levels?

  2. I started taking letro 3 days ago and I can touch my nipple again, it’s not sensitive anymore. I’m following C. Bino’s gyno reversal protocol. I’m going to 2.5mg until lump dissapears and then tapering off while adding in nolvadex to prevent a rebound.

My biggest question is this. I had a cycle ready to start pinning in a few days (test E for 12 weeks at 500mg). I’m on day 4 of letro at the moment, I was planning on taking the letro throughout the first few weeks of the test and then tapering off and adding aromasin and nolvadex for a few weeks then tapering off the nolva and keeping the aromasin throughout the rest of the cycle. Would that be ok? Can I use letro for weeks 1-2 on test at 2.5mg? I figured test e doesn’t peak for about 4-6 weeks so I could reverse the gyno meanwhile and maintain my sex drive while I’m on it. [/quote]

is that thyroid number you posted your TSH?

optimal levels are 1-2 (although the range goes from .45 to 4.5)…

i’d investigative that further, prior to the cycle…


#3

btw, i’d like to commend you for having the foresight to get bloodwork prior to your cycle.

normally a 20 year old would be told to wait to cycle, but you’ve identified that your testosterone levels are kind of low, especially for your age.


#4

[quote]cycobushmaster wrote:
btw, i’d like to commend you for having the foresight to get bloodwork prior to your cycle.

normally a 20 year old would be told to wait to cycle, but you’ve identified that your testosterone levels are kind of low, especially for your age.[/quote]

Thank you. I was planning on this cycle for 1.5 years so I picked up some info along the way and was really excited to run a test e/dbol cycle. Dbol is definitely out of the question now. I figured I’d run letro gyno reversal protocol then taper off and add a-sin + nolva then taper off nolva and keep only a-sin for the rest of the cycle. I would be done with the letro before the test would even reach peak levels.

Just kind of bummed that after the cycle my levels would drop back down. I am going to an endocrinologist to find the reason for low test, I think it is hypogonadism caused by hypothyroidism.