@physioLojik hey I took that Quadracarn for the first time today and pissed like a race horse.
Update. I was never taking arimidex on a regular basis but was taking it sporadically because e2 showed up in the mid 30s. Arimidex I determined gave me heart paps- not sure if it was a side affects or e2 swinging). I thought I had bloating from high e2 BUT I was led to believe that because I was not at e2 22. My bloat is actually gas caused from indigestion. Mostly constipation. I am trying specific single strain probiotics, if that donât work than I will try fiber supplements.
So I reduced my dose from 108mg (divided 2x week)a week to 90 a week (divided 2x). I continue to take 5.5 mg Cialis daily. I feel really good all around. So I found my protocol!
I just got a a bunch of labs today just to see what my numbers read. I will share that within a week.
I tried Beverly Quadracarn Multi-Carnitine as suggested by @physioLojik for a week and I think it made my erections harder and seemed to be able to lift more. I did not continue this though.
I also no longer get any flushing.
I also take a multi vitamin, 20 mg zinc picolinate and D3. Also allopurinol for uric acid stones.
Interested to see those numbers. Glad your working it dude.
Cool. It was a good idea to get a snapshot of when you were feeling good.
Yeah. After my lab draw I was due for an injection and already started staggering the dose.
I had a very physical weekend. beach and hours of volleyball. Was tired yesterday a bit. Hope it does not affect my labs but then again Its an accurate picture of my summer life.
I wanted to add that I developed golfers elbow due to bicep curls and underhand pull ups. It is limiting my progress. I got some athletic tape and a counterforce brace to help.
Any other advice with this?
This is great man!
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Ok you got how I felt in the post right above, and I just got my labs back drawn on 7/9âŠ
I took tests like estrone and IGF which I never took before. @physioLojik PLEASE LOOK at all the labs - esp Prolactin and IGF-1, Thank you.
WBC 3.7 (3.4-10.8)
RBC 5.09 (4.14-5.8)
Hematocrit 45.6 (37-51)
Platelets 186 (150-379)
Glucose 85 (65-99)
Cholesterol 144 (100-199)
Trigl 138 (0-149)
HDL 37 LOW (>39)
VLDL 28 (5-40)
LDL 79 (0-99)
LDL/HDL ratio 2.1
Total T 620 (264-916)
%free (dialysis) 1.9 % also calculated is 1.9%
Free T 118 (52-280)
%free test 3.18 (i guess different method than above)
SHBG 36.8 highest its ever benn
Estradiol ECLIA 33.1 (7.6-42.6)
E2 sensitive 37.4 HIGH (8-35)
Estrone 60 pg/ml (12-72)
TSH 2.32 (.45-4.5)
T4 free .92 (.82-1.77)
total t3 92 (71-180) lab left out free t3
Prolactin 17.9 HIGH (4-15.2)
IGF-1 228 HIGH (75-216)
Vit D 42.9 (30-100)
Insulin 9.9 fasting (2.6-24.9)
Am Cortisol 7 at 1030am 3 hours after I got up(6.2-19.4)
PSA .7
AST 27 (0-40)
ALT 17 (0-44)
I have complete labs from CBC, CMP if needed.
Arent you a low SHBG guy?
Looks pretty good besides those high numbers. RBC is getting a little high.
You could probably lower your dose a little if you still have any issues.
Regarding your thyroid, most T3 is bound to protein and the T3 can be affected by protein levels and protein binding ability, but the free T3 isnât. Itâs this reason why I like to see Free T3 levels. FT4 is low and if Free T3 is also below midrange than that might explain TSH being slightly elevated.
Normally if Reverse T3 was elevated and causing problems you would expect to see TSH higher, you might consider running it anyway. How are those waking and afternoon body temperatures?
Attached is the lab from 5/24 when I took ai that dropped my e2. Thyroid looked great then. Thatâs why I am led to believe my thyroid is fine. And I was also injecting 108 mg a week divided in 2 then. Now it is about 90 divided in 2.
So lowering my dose did not lower my e2 though I feel really good now. My e2 was about 37 with no ai. Like the physio states, these numbers a flash in a moment in time
@anon10035199 u can see my shbg was always in the 20s.
Also this attached lab was from bioreference labs. I am not liking LabCorp it took me over a week to get results because there lab is behind. Itâs always something with LabCorp. I think I will use bioreference from now on.
@anon10230041 hey man. Howâre you feeling? Higher IGF and prolactin numbers (yours are high but not absurd) are usually caused by hypothyroid. I donât remember if youâre being treated for that? Am cortisol is a little low as well. Have you been using vitamin c or other adaptogens? Other than that man your numbers look great
@physioLojik I feel very good. I do yawn for a bit about 1/2 hr after I take my daily 5.5 mg daily Cialis. Which I take sometime bet 7-9pm. But that is ok with me as the yawning lasts for a short time.
I only take a multi v, 20 mg zinc picolinate, vit D3. Also take 300 mg allopurinol. Started about 2 weeks ago Schiff digestive advantage probiotic. Nothing else. If you look at the image above my thyroid numbers were better on an earlier lab. In fact those better numbers I have had at other times as well. Seems like my TSH fluctuates. I am not being treated for hypo.
Btw heres what my Dr just emailed me. Igf goes up with TRT. Wouldnât worry about insulin or prolactin.
Do you suggest I take vit c at what dosage and which adaptogens if any at what dosage?
Also, I want to say that all my life I can not have caffeine past 10 am as it affects my sleep. I rarely drink coffee.
Btw all- being on trt since December my liver enzymes have never been better (I have Fatty liver since early life) my LDLs and triglycerides, blood pressure, have never been better! My body fat went down from about 21 to 17-18. I just need to raise my HDLs a bit any ideas? Am also nursing my golfers elbow which is preventing some muscle gains.
Thank you!
@physioLojik not sure if you had a chance to see my response to your question directly above.
Also best time to take the vit c and I been reading a dosage of 2g?
@anon10230041 hey man. I just want you to be careful with certain adaptogens because they could lower your cortisol further. Try this for a few weeks
Every morning licorice root tea
500 mg vitamin c x3 (morning noon and evening)
Report back
Thank you for your time man.
@physioLojik I think I have good energy all day. The blood draw was at 1030 about 3 hours after I got up. I also waited in the lab 1.5 hours for my blood draw. Not sure if sitting that long waiting and waiting would impact my reading.
I think I will start with just the vit c.
Interesting stuff here. So Lab Corp was behind in testing. Finally got other testosterone numbers. The one I posted earlier was done by HPLC method or mass spectrometry/equilibrium dialysis. I got the LC/Ms just now. There both on the image below.
Take a look. @physioLojik you may particularly find this interesting. Free testosterone big difference. Why?
Bro I constantly battle with my tennis/golfers elbow acting up. I recently bought a flexbar, and from what I have seen online, it is one of the things that can help completely get rid of the pain.
Flexbar by Theraband. Check it out, its helped a lot so far already.
I remembered you have the same issue and I thought about you after I bought it.
Oh man. I will def check it. This elbow pissing me off. Actually I put thumb pressure on the painful areas a few days ago and I think itâs better. And some major cross friction rub like you said. The last time I did rub from elbow down to wrist.
Actually was thinking of bpc 157. Anything. Even injecting t subq near pain. But I donât think that will work lol
Let me amazon the bar.
@anon10035199 I guess I need the green one. ?