# Looking for Programs, Not Percentage Based

What are some good programs that are not percentage based. At least not to the extent of 5/3/1. Working up to a top set then using a percentage is not a problem. Looking to try something new.

Deep Water has you only figure out percentages twice. 70% of your 10rm and 80%.

Edit; I should clarify that is for the first 12 weeks. The final 6 is the working up to topset you are describing.

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Why?

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Check out some of Dan Johnâ€™s workout programs.

Is this your only requirement? Do you care about splits/fullbody, days per week, etc?

Whatâ€™s your goal, other than â€śsomething newâ€ť? Basically no hypertrophy-focused routines are percentage based. So this is a basic way to plan it. Waterburyâ€™s work on total volume instead of sets/reps is another way to approach it.

Something like Thibâ€™s Layer System isnâ€™t percentage-based in the usual sense. You work up to a daily weight, then do work based off that (so, technically percentages based off a kind of everyday max, but you could just as easily skip the math and just go â€ślighter-but-still-heavyâ€ť and â€śeven lighter than thatâ€ť).

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I think the following 2 approaches would work for you:

1. Double progression

2. Work up to a daily max and then do 3-10 back off sets. The sets/reps of the back-off sets would be based on your goals (ex: 5x10 for size, 5x3 for strength, etc).

Iâ€™m not a percentage based person either, but I know whats LIGHT, MEDIUM, HEAVY. This will help you out a lot.

What is your current strength level and how long have you been training for?

Plenty of successful current and plenty school folks made amazing progress while never needing a calculator too complicated.

Iâ€™ve helped countless BBs and athletes and rarely have to go beyond:

Use a well thought out split/plan
Work hard
Incorporate a variety of rep ranges
Recover

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