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Long Cycle - HCG/Clomid/Nolva


#1

Hey all.

Quick post, im coming off a 20 week cycle in a couple of weeks time. I'm planning on running 6 week pct following a HCG blast. What numbers for the HCG would you suggest? And should i start the hcg a week or two before the end of cycle?

Thanks
Jekyll


#2

I would blast the hCG while the esters clear.

1000iu eod


#3

Alright, and run that for 10 days? (i.e. 5000 iu total) Or longer?


#4

yeah, depends on how shrivelled your nads are. If they're a bit smaller then yeah that'll be fine. If they're tic tacs I'd go for 10000iu total


#5

out of curiosity, what was your cycle, and your plan for PCT?


#6

Also, a couple notes on HCG...

while it can bring back the testes, too much can delay the HPTA recovery. low doses (500 iu EOD) are relatively effective...

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2360778/pdf/postmedj00085-0047.pdf


#7

I changed a fair bit as i progressed through into comp prep. Started off at 600 test e 400 deca. Switched to short esters at about 13/12 weeks out and added in test P, tren ace and mast. Dropped the test E deca.

PCT plan was always HCG blast, nolva+ clomid. I've had issues having a reliable source to get ancillaries etc. So at points ive had to change the plan for PCT. Finally got a source for HCG so im getting it asap to have it for recovery.


#8

i'd add in something for prolactin and an AI, if you haven't already...


#9

Ive always ran an AI, been running prami with the tren. Had no issues whatsoever with deca.