Even though carries do involve the legs (after all, you're walking) their purpose is to build mass in some of the neglected muscles from the main movements. They will build hypertrophy mostly in upper body muscles. The effect of carries on the lower body is more in work capacity. If you want the same effect for the lower body you need to do prowler work.
I'm not a fan of occlusion work (wrapping the legs).
its fine! the more people that a thread can help, the better! -makes life easier for CT too haha
just fyi, i've tried what you suggested before (about the bike) it was in a Chad Waterbury article. the theory kind of makes sense (cyclists have large quads), but for me personally it did little but hurt my performance/recovery during deadlift/squat sessions. but thats just me haha
True - That is important part of the aim too, but I'm getting a lot of work capacity from the density work after the ramp. So I just feel i need an extra layer for legs that's not too demanding but creates a lot of blood flow to deliver nutrients etc. But I don't have a prowler so was wonderng wht the best option could be...
Since the bike doesn't have am eccentric portion, similar to the prowler, that sprung to mind as thiswould sggest it would be easier to recover from (but obviosly not in your case...)
But no i agree, it should always be constructive - this forum inparticular is excellent for championing that!!
tbf i was diong the 'bike' workouts every day (as per Waterbury's guide) which is probably why it didnt work. maybe it will work done as a last layer following a squat layer session..
by the way, i'm not knocking CW in any way.. his ABBH progrom has given me, and my friends, the quickest muscle gains ever -until the layer system which IMO has provided equal size gains with a hell of a lot more strength gains - plus more fun to do! haha
the thing is, Waterbury's methods are better applied to the average joe trying to get fitter, loose a little fat and gain a little muscle. Whereas CT's workout's focus on high performance mass (couldn't think how to word this without quoting the 'high performance mass' system haha).
again, CW knows his stuff and his systems DO work.
in the long run i think the layer system can help you reach any goal, quicker; i for one have enjoyed the fat loss, and muscle building effects depending on the layer set up (and diet) i'm using. the strength and speed gains are a welcomed bonus for me personally!
For me the main benifit of the layer is the simplicity of having one main exercise - that's why I spent a lot of time on pogrammes like 10x3 and advanced GVT (Poloquin style) and the layer system is kind of the next step up in my eyes with many more tecnical advancements, which does make it more challenging and a lot more fun!
Anyway, I'll see how the bike thing works out for now,we can only try these things out and see I guess. Enjoy the prowler if you get one, I wish my gym would even entertain that idea but there's no space what so ever!
You can also go the route that a lot of us have gone who either can't afford a prowler or don't have access to a location to properly use one and just create a sled. It's stupid easy and costs about $10 - $20. Get a large truck tire (free from any tire shop), get a heavy duty eye bolt from hardware store ($5) and drill it through the tire, get some straps from hardware store and tie them to the eye bolt. Done and done! Is it exactly the same as a prowler, maybe no, but IMHO the difference is pretty insignificant but the cost saving is huge!
Some of the best hypertrophy (and healthiest knees) I've gotten have come from doing high frequency reverse tire sled drags. If you need to add weight to your tire sled just cut a couple pieces of wood and jam them inside the tire and put weights or large rocks in there.