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Live In the UK? Please Read This

[quote]makkun wrote:
electric_eales,

electric_eales wrote:

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Britain is one of the most over populated countries in the world.

Not corroborated by numbers:
Population growth is in international comparison with 0.28% (2006 est.) comparably small.
http://www.cia.gov/cia/publications/factbook/fields/2002.html

Also the 2001 census has nothing to say about alleged overpopulation.
http://www.statistics.gov.uk/census2001/quick_pictures.asp

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Crime in this country is out of control the police cannot cope.

“Total crime peaked in 1995, and has since fallen by 44%”

Indeed there are problems with increased youth violence and anti-social behaviour related crimes (which are by the way on the rise in many western nations), but the overall trend is gowing down.

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There are thousands of illegal immigrants, paedophiles, and serious violent criminals living amongst us.

The current benefit system encourages and supports anti-social, criminal and lazy people to have more children, where as hard working law abiding citizens who pay taxes find it difficult to afford to work and bring up further children, this means that currently there are a lot more children being born to parents that do not work through choice and are lazy, than there are children being born to parents that are hard working and law abiding, in a couple generations time there will be too many benefit seekers and not enough workers to support the benefit system.

This is proper polemics, and nothing else. Interesting how you bring pedophiles into the mix - but the funniest part is the way you use the pauperism argument (and that got old with the US eugenics movement of the early 20th century). With these 2 paragraphs, you have left rational debate, as they clearly display a fearmongering rhethoric aimed at radicalising public debate, based on (hopefully) mistaken facts.

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What immediate measures can be taken to prevent this country becoming the worst over populated crime ridden country on the planet?

As the above trend is not corroborated by the figures, the following argument is kinda mute. The measures are classic right wing “law & order”, “bring in the military to regulate civil society” and “re-engineer the social makeup of society by getting rid of undesirables”. Yawn.

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These are just some bullet point policies that we are currently building a complete party manifesto on, we have much more information regarding the points raised but for now would just like to offer these simple points to grab your attention and support.

Thank you for reading this your feedback is very much appreciated.

This is my feedback - I guess you should find most of these policies on the right fringe of the Conservatives, UKIP and the BNP. Under the election system, your party does not stand a chance and if you want your views to have an effect on policy, I suggest you join one of the two acceptable options above (I don’t count the BNP as such).

Makkun[/quote]

This chap pretty much hit the nail on the head there with regards to what you are trying to get across, the fundemental flaws in your points and possibly where your energies are best directed to have any real effect on UK life.

[quote]electric_eales wrote:
The Common sense political party

The common sense political party strives to bring grass roots knowledge of the UK to a political level and believe in bringing something entirely new and dynamic to politics, honesty and common sense.

Our main policies,

We will punish the; criminal and the anti-social

We will reward the; Hard working law abiding decent citizens of the UK

Here are some bullet points that may shock you:

The current government encourages people to take drugs and gives financial support to purchase illicit substances to drug users.

Britain is one of the most over populated countries in the world.

Crime in this country is out of control the police cannot cope.

Anti-social young criminals have claim control over many areas of this country.

Criminals in this country have no respect or fear of our laws, and judicial system.

In some areas asylum seekers are being given free driving lessons and tests by the government (the tax payer) because the police fear that too many of them drive illegally with out licenses.

The NHS is only in trouble because of poor management and abuse by patients.

We are paying millions of pounds every day to fight a war in Iraq that serves no purpose to us.

All our lives are under threat from radical terrorists that live amongst us.

There are thousands of illegal immigrants, paedophiles, and serious violent criminals living amongst us.

The current benefit system encourages and supports anti-social, criminal and lazy people to have more children, where as hard working law abiding citizens who pay taxes find it difficult to afford to work and bring up further children, this means that currently there are a lot more children being born to parents that do not work through choice and are lazy, than there are children being born to parents that are hard working and law abiding, in a couple generations time there will be too many benefit seekers and not enough workers to support the benefit system.

Hundreds of decent law abiding essential professionals including doctors, nurses, paramedics, police and teachers emigrate from this country every single day, only to be replaced with benefit seeking, lazy, criminals that have no respect for British laws or customs.

No other country has such relaxed immigration laws as we do, the current government has already admitted that 95% of asylum seekers lie on their applications, also they have admitted that they cannot keep track of where these people go.

We give millions of essential funds of foreign aid in payments to countries that we know are rife with corruption

What immediate measures can be taken to prevent this country becoming the worst over populated crime ridden country on the planet?

Tighten immigration laws.

Reduce foreign aid payments to corrupt countries; instead give aid to foreign charities that provide help to the people who really need it.

Recall all military personal from the middle east, as soon as is safe for them to withdraw, America has received enough help with this war, and we should help them no longer in Iraq.

In some areas of the country that crime and in particular gun crime is out of control the military will assist the police in eradicating crime. Also the military will be used in removing illegal travellers from illegal campsites and arresting any travellers that commit any criminal offence.

Build more prisons and change the whole prison system to one that criminals will fear, not one that offers a recreational hazard to their criminal lifestyle.

Bring back discipline into schools by punishing parents of poorly disciplined children.

Bring back borstals and lock up and punish young criminals.

Stamp out benefit cheats.

People that are receiving benefits that are only doing so because they are lazy or because they choose not to work, or because there criminal lifestyle allows them to not work will be forced to work to earn their benefits.

Build more prisons

Employ more British police, prison staff, nurses, and teachers.

Stop patients from abusing the NHS, there are many ways in which this is done, and there are many simple solutions, but too many to list here.

Partial privatisation of the NHS, patients will be expected to pay for there own meals

All these changes can be made WITHOUT raising taxes

Although a radical party we are not a right wing or racist party, we intend to punish criminals and the anti-social regardless of colour or creed.

These are just some bullet point policies that we are currently building a complete party manifesto on, we have much more information regarding the points raised but for now would just like to offer these simple points to grab your attention and support.

Thank you for reading this your feedback is very much appreciated.
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I would say TSB but you have put too much effort into it…
And their is a difference between an asylum seeker, illegal immigrant, refugee. You don’t seem to have worked that one out yet…

P.S we are the 33rd most densely populated country in the world…