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Lifting for 10 Years, First Cycle

1st cycle

I’ve lifting for 10 years
Age 32
I lift 5 times a week and keep a proper diet

My cycle:

SOSTE 1.0ML
DECA 0.5ML
Twice a week for 10 weeks

On week 8
I’ll take milk thistle 3000mg
And saw palmetto 2000mg daily for 4 weeks.
(2 weeks before fishish cycle and 2 weeks after finish cycle)

This is what was recommended to me by a pro lifter,
Is this a proper post cycle to clean toxiins and reactivate
my testosterone the fastest?

THIS IS ACTUALLY FOR A FRIEND OF MINE WHO IS SEEKING SOME HELP.
AFTER READING MANY ACTICLES AND POSTS ABOUT STEROIDS I FOUND
THAT NOLVA IS SOMETHING HE NEEDS TO ADD FROM WEEK 11-14. I
QUESTION THIS PCT BECAUSE IT DOESN’T FEEL IT’S ENOUGH
CONSIDERING WHAT I’VE READ.

ALTHOUGH THE PRO WHO RECOMMENDED THIS
IS REALLY A BIG TIME PRO WHO OWNES A GYM AND HAS WON CONTESTS.
SO THEREFOR I MUST ASK WHY WOULD THIS GUY RECOMMEND THIS IF HE KNOWS
A PCT SHOULD CONSIST OF MORE THAN THAT? THANKS

The only thing I know is that you should ask your dealer to sell you an -Caps Lock- button.

If its for a friend, why are YOU gonna use milk thistle from week 8?

“I’ll take milk thistle 3000mg
And saw palmetto 2000mg daily for 4 weeks.
(2 weeks before fishish cycle and 2 weeks after finish cycle)”

Back in the 70s guys had no concept of PCT and they still built impressive physiques. If this guy is older and learned most of his steroid knowledge first hand rather than on the internet it’s likely he’s never learned about proper PCT.

With that said, AAS knowledge has advanced a long way since then. Tell your buddy to get some Nolva and start it 3 weeks after his last injection.

Also, sustanon needs to be injected more frequently than twice a week.

[quote]overstand wrote:

Also, sustanon needs to be injected more frequently than twice a week.

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On what grounds is that the case? Sustanon is typically administered twice a week due to the variation in ester lengths…

[quote]pop-eye wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

Also, sustanon needs to be injected more frequently than twice a week.

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On what grounds is that the case? Sustanon is typically administered twice a week due to the variation in ester lengths… [/quote]

In a mix of compounds of different ester lengths you always inject at the proper frequency for the half life of the shortest ester. In sust that is prop, so EOD or even better would be ED. But again ED is a pain in the ass so EOD is ok.

If injecting different solutions, then you can inject each on their proper schedule, but with a pre-mix in one single bottle this is what you do to keep androgen blood levels most stable.

Makes sense I guess… Just seems a pain injecting everyday for the sake of a small amount of prop. That would work out that you were shooting 9mg of test prop ED.

(30mg test prop in sustanon blend per 250/mg
60mg test prop per week if shooting 500mg/w
60mg divided by a shot a day (7) = 8.57mg)