[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
OneEye wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
OneEye wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
conorh wrote:
hueyOT wrote:
one lift a day seems like a real dumb training protocol to me… unless you’re a total noob to training. it’s not enough work to get serious gains. anyone with an even moderate level of conditioning should be able to handle much much much more volume of training.
Y’ought to give it a try first, if you haven’t.
no thanks. i can handle more than one exercise a day, thanks.
Then you have no reason to be knocking the program. “It doesn’t look like a good program and I’m not willing to try it” isn’t a very convincing argument. I for one would take Danny John’s training advice over yours any day.
good for you, but one lift a day is still a noob program for trainees with low levels of conditioning. for me, it would be a step backwards. i can tolerate much much much more volume than one lift a day.
did i say it was a shitty program? no. did i say it was for noobs? yes.
Can tolerate doesn’t necessarily mean must/should do. Danny John never said anything about it being a newbie program. If you can offer up any evidence that it is, other than “because I said so and I can tolerate more work so it’s a newbie program,” then please do. Until then, your opinion isn’t really worth much.
Dan John wrote
Because the single finest training system I’ve ever used continues to be the only training program I can recommend. The problem? Well, the problem with this training program is: it’s really hard. No, really.
It’s really hard, but really simple. Still, a fitness magazine would never run it because the average reader would never even try it.
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The One Lift a Day Program is really hard. Certainly, it’s the most productive program most people have ever tried, but it’s simply too hard.
Again, if I had to pick which one of you actually knew what they were talking about, it sure as hell wouldn’t be you.
BAM! Well put. Anyone who claims they can’t gain strength on OLAD (for ANY reason) doesn’t have the experience to back up their opinion. He specifically pointed out strenght gains. If he had said hypertrophy, he could make a legit point, because there are likely better programs for short-term hypertrophy, particularly for advanced trainers. However, the fact that he specifically said strength, renders him as valid a source as my asshole to make comments.
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i’d like to see even a handful of elite, or very advanced trainees that stand by this one-lift-a-day training program other than the 150 pound noobs on this site.
bad program? no. better than most men’s health dumbass programs? yes. good program for anyone with considerable experience or good conditioning? hell no.