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Libido Shutdown. Help Please


#1

shutdown - tried it all-will test help?

currently on nolva/clomid restart 40/100
ghrp-6 4x daily @ 250mcg each
cjc-1295 w/o dac 4x day
hghfrag 176-191 4x a day @ 250mcg each
tribulus 1,000mg 2x a day
fish oil 6g a day

even have liquid viagra...not helping "much"

overall i have no sex drive whatsoever,nuts are moderate but not full,noodle is limp and playing turtle alot. this fucking blows...been like this for over 3 months now.

test propionate 100mg and test enanthate 400mg on hand. also have arimidex. where the fuck do i go from here?

im ready to jsut say fuck it and be a lifer on test....help!!!


#2

Read the stickies. Post bloodwork. There are a lot of possible reasons.


#3

is there a cost effective way to do this? i jsut dont have alot of $ right now and no insurance
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#4

You have no cash? How the hell are you affording all that stuff in your OP


#5

woah man, my personal fucking finances are jsut that. mine. if you cant be helpful then leave it alone for someone that can.
as for 'all that stuff" its not that expensive and i spent what i had to try and fix myself man...

In your case/thread opening post:
-age 33
-height 5'10"
-waist 38
-weight 245
-describe body and facial hair sicilian/italian lots of hair i shave off on body,head hair balding,face grows fast

-describe where you carry fat and how changed: much worse lately fat gotten real bad in midsection,back,chest,under arms
-health conditions, symptoms [history] bi-polar disorder,take "pristiq 100mg daily"

-Rx and OTC drugs, any hair loss drugs or prostate drugs ever lots of test,some tren,anavar,dbol,deca,eq,hgh,peptides,clen,fatburners,weed...

-lab results with ranges DONT HAVE ANY YET

-describe diet [some create substantial damage with starvation diets] MY DIET IS FINE

-describe training [some ruin there hormones by over training] TRAIN 4 DAYS A WEEK 2 ON/1 OFF USUALLY

-testes ache, ever, with a fever? ONLY ON MY LAST CYCLE WHEN I SHOT MASTERON PROPIONATE

-how have morning wood and nocturnal erections changed morning wood is gone - very rarely get anymore. i miss it:( ,nocturnal on occassion


#6

If you are taking tribulus to raise testosterone values don't bother, that stuff does not work. You might as well flush your money down the toilet. I tried it for 3 months had blood work done before and after and had absolutely ZERO change in Testosterone values. It also did absolutely nothing for my training or strength.. This is my experience and I honestly think the stuff is a waste of money.

Get some blood tests done and post up the results. Read the stickies and write a list of blood tests that you need and go see the doctor. Guys on here are very good with help but they need the information to be able to diagnose what could be causing your problems.


#7

How is anyone supposed to tell you which hormone(s) is/are out of balance without knowing what your hormone levels are?

Might consider taking this to the steroid forum as well. This isn't one.


#8

Given the temper tantrum you threw on the first person that tried to help you by asking a valid question, I suspect extremely high estrogen.

Your peptide dosing is ridiculously high. Saturation dose of GHRP-6 is only about 125 mcg for a guy your size and you are taking double that each injection.

Why would you take nolva and clomid at the same time since they do the same thing?

I know for a fact peptides are not all that cheap and neither is bottle of test or ancillaries. ESPECIALLY if you are in Australia. Don't you guys have a health care system there where you can go and get bloodwork done?

If not, I can't imagine it would be all that expensive to get it done out of pocket. You need the following tests to really paint your picture:

-Total T
-Free T
-DHT
-E2
-LH
-FSH

Those are bare minimum. I suspect your issue is with androgens given your prior AAS usage, so this would be a good start.

If you aren't willing to do this, you could always try this:

http://web.ics.purdue.edu/~ssanty/cgi-bin/eightball.cgi


#9

Australia has a pretty good medical system. OP all you have to do is go to your local GP and ask to have those tests run that VT suggested and tell the doctor why you need them.

I have never really had a problem in getting blood work done on request. They might look at you why you want E2 done and be hesitant to do it. But you might just have to tell them your story AAS use and symptoms.

VT is that Eight ball for real? I asked the question am I immortal and it said absolutely. Looks like I have nothing to worry about.


#10

ok,yeah estrogen is high thats a no brainer,im cranky and edgy as shit...i dont really see where the first person helped me but moving on...im working in getting a blood test so you guys can help me. not trying to be a dick,jsut not feeling like myself for a long time and its killing me. WHY NOLVA AND CLOMID? RIGHT OR WRONG ITS GOTTA BE the most common pct and has helped me in the past but isnt doing shit this go round.
i dont live in australia,im in the states. just put that for privacy.

as for the peptide dose ARE YOU WILLIng to adjust me a little? im willing to lsiten if you are...
maybe i need more help than i thought guys.

so i f i have ghrp-6 5mg vials/ CJC-1295 / Mod GRF(1-29) - 2000MCG / hgh frag 176-191 5mg how would you reccomend constituting and dosing?


#11

Peptides are a bit far outside my area of expertise, and are pretty outside the scope of this forum as well since they have little to no impact on your hormones. 125 mcg is saturation dosage for GHRP-6 at your weight (rule of thumb is 1 mcg per 1 kg of bodyweight, up to 125). GRF(1-29) should be about 100 mcg, but I've seen people stop here at 125 mcg as well (probably irrelevant due to the cost). So you would take 125 mcg of each 3x daily. NO idea about HGH frag.

That said, your issues will be solved hormonally, not via peptides. You need bloodwork. You have no insurance, so until you can get some, you can consider the male panel at www.lef.org

It is a little pricey but way less than paying for labs out of pocket. If you are in New York, you may be SOL since they won't give it to you there.