[quote]JamesBrawn007 wrote:
The latest Biotest-sponsored research actually appears to state that neither is now optimum. My reading of the current protocol, as outlined by CT, is that casein hydrosylate (CH) ALONE is the optimum way to spike protein synthesis. BCAAs are almost redundant, the exception being 45-60mins pre-workout (and even then that does not appear necessary if one has access to Anaconda, FINiBARs, etc).
As stated earlier in this thread, an exception to this protocol is if you are cutting. Then, a steady state of aminos appears better than spiking. Therefore, BCAAs taken throughout the day would be beneficial.
The previous protocol of taking 3-5g of leucine before each solid meal also appears now redundant under the new pulsing programme, with CT suggesting the spike should be CH 30 mins before food making the additional 5g leucine intake 5 mins before the meal surplus to requirement.
So I’m not surprised there is some confusion on this topic. I have monitored the amino pulsing stuff since it first appeared on T-Nation. In my opinion the goalposts are moving almost daily. First CT stated the optimim pulse was dervived from 3 CH spikes per day and 3 meals per day (he said that’s what he was doing personally). He has since advocated the pulses 30 mins prior to solid food, e.g. now 6 pulses per day?. Previously whey hydrolysate, or even leucine on its own, could substitute CH; now he has stated it “may” only be CH that can achieve the spike and nothing else may work.
Although I appreciate nutritional insight into these topics is constantly under review, it would be better if T-Nation members were getting at least information based on some results, e.g. from CT’s trainees who have been experimenting with the protocols. At the moment it feels distinctly more like laboratory theory than cutting edge practice.
I’ve been pulsing with hydrolysed whey and leucine for the past 25 days, most of which time was on a cutting phase. This consists of one spike 30 mins before breakfast and another 3-4 hours later (and 2 hours before a solid meal). I’m sticking with this because I’m confident body comp has improved. But if I had modified it every time the latest pearl of wisdom was announced I don’t have a clue what version I’d be on by now. [/quote]
I don’t care what CT says, there are several studies out showing Protein, Leucine and dextrose are more effective post workout then just protein and carbs. You don’t need CH so lets just cut the crap. And by the way you ever think of crediting natural progression for your body comp improvements?