28,167-170 5.9, 10%bf, training since 16, wrestled, sprinter in track 400 mainly, I work out for pure vanity not competition or for a job. I would like to put on 15-20bls and keep it and it be solid gains, so I am doing this bulking cycle then over the summer i will do a test cyp, tren e, winny and clen cycle. I dont want to look too big or meat headish since in my field AS use is looked down upon since I counsel, diagnose and treat patients all day.
That being said…
If you counsel people, that saddens me. You are incapable of articulating yourself adequately, or you are just completely ignorant. You are 170lbs at ten percent. That is what 153bs of lean mass? Woo. I am 5’9 210 pounds and I don’t in the SLIGHTEST look “meatheadish” maybe if you talk like an adult they wont think you are a “meathead.”
What is a good dose of caber and letro while on 400mg of deca and 400mg of test cyp and 30ml of Dbol?
If you have done ANY research you would have known that letro dose is going to be dependent upon your personal make-up. Just for an idea though, I use .25mg/day when on cycle, FOR ME that was about right (confirmed by blood tests). I believe the dose of caber is half a mg or so every couple days (not positive).
1-5 30ml DBOL
3-12 400mg deca and test cyp
16-20 nolv 40/40/20/20ed
I am very senitive to gyno when on test and was as well when on tren. So I assume I would be with deca too. I am also on propecia… I have read letro is AS dose dependent and .25mgx2 wk is a good place to start, caber I read 1.5mcg eod… Should I them both at week 1 and use them all the way to week 20 or start them later, or end them at week 12 ? what is eveyone elses thoughts???
I know this is a deca hateing site but I have used Eq and not liked it… the only AS I have found worth anything is test cyp and tren E, Sust I didnt like, Eq, didnt like, prop just make my ass swell up like a balloon and it hurt all the time, as well as the sust. So that being said this is my first run with deca and d-bol and I looking forward to it…
No this site recognizes that nandrolone as a compound is substantially less effective than trenbolone or test and has more side effects than comparable drugs like masteron or primabolan at a higher dose.
No need to mention that you think the Dbol should be at the end… I am well aware that in the mid of my cycle I may feel I am loosing gains and strength because the other AS are not as strong as D-Bol but when I start noticing my face isnt shaped like a moon and I am my body is not bloated I will realize that the test and deca are hardening me out comapred to the D-bol and I will look and feel better at then end…
Again, I believe you are 100% lying about everything you have stated, I bet you are around 18. You at least talk like a teenager, that is for sure. PS your face is like a moon because you are not controlling estrogen AND/OR you are fat and little. The deca won’t stop you from being fat and little on your own, its not a miracle worker. Figure out how to train and eat correctly and you will notice exponentially better results.
wks 1-100 Consistent diet and lifting
wks 101-2000 Supplements
wks 200-209 AAS cycle
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Apparently we got off on the wrong foot… I can understand some of your discontent for my last post. I can come off a little abrasive when I do not get the answers that I want; especially when I have attempted to fulfill what has been requested of me. I do apologize if you took my comments as insulting or condescending. The term “meathead” I admit is a little derogatory and in a bodybuilding forum the use of such a term might be considered by some to be offensive.
I have grown very frustrated with this board, I have been a member of this board since 2006 and over the past 3 years I have seen it slowly transcend from a board eager to answer questions and help new comers to a board that is has taken the name “T-Nation unapologetic muscle building elitists” literally. Some even looking forward to “flame” or put down new comers who have less knowledge and experience than themselves.
I understand the importance of doing research on your own but that fact is there is much misinformation out there and in doing such research I have found a lot contradicting info on this site alone. Now I know this is not an exact science, “Hell it is steroids we are talking about here… they are illegal in most countries and look down upon for their use in professional sports due to the media and public education system”…
Many of the cycles I posted here on this board this week were exact cut and paste posts from doing research on this very site. With all that being said it is up to experienced users to advise future users on proper use. Not to tell them to look up old posts of you telling another person to do research… I must of seen 20 posts bashing someone for every 1 post I saw giving productive feedback
To all those who have shared their knowledge thus contributing to the safety and effectiveness of this board… Thank you (you know who you are)
I’m at the back end of 28 and quickly approaching 30 and will not accept getting older so I workout and use AS because it keeps me looking good and feeling good and with the finastride I have had no hair loss. I just want to make sure I am using them best way possible… thanks for your time and comments… I think I’m done with this board…