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Legal Prohormones?

“Dhea Derivatives”
“Progestins”
Upon researching legal prohormones, I came across many that were actually aromatase inhibitors. The most common dhea ones I came across were epiandrosterone, 1-AD, 4-AD, M-1D, and forms of Nandrol (dhea derived). Lastly, I came across Stanalone, Boldione, and a TRN progestin.
Anyways, I have several questions about these products:
A) Do any of them work. Any experience would be duly noted. I have heard M-1D is crap so far unless you are already a 150 pound small guy.
B) Max LMG is a progestin, so I’ve heard. Does this mean it is safe from government bans.
C) Will halo, epi, or any of the other primary prohormones last? (is there anything that safeguards any particular prohormones from government bans?-I’ve heard that the 4-chloro groups weren’t added to a ban).
When I hit 25 I have plans to carry forward with 1-2 more cycles of Anabolics to hit maximum natural potential (what my body can hold when I’m off anabolics). I do have sources to legit stuff, but I am also wanting to take a look at what will be around then as well and plan accordingly. Any information is much appreciated.

And for those who want to criticize my diet and training I ensure you they are spot on. I do have a belief that there is a certain amount of transforming that can be done with Anabolics as they and IGF have both been theorized to induce hyperplasia instead of hypertrophy.

Why are you playing with the idea to use prohormones if you can get legit stuff?

I am a firm believer that shorter cycles allow the body to bounch back far better. Most likely i would be doing test e. I cant speak for every steroid, but i imagine most will become highly active after 3 weeks. This is a perfect time before to implement a prohormone that will be active within days. Dont really want to throwdown money now and save something on a shelf for that mamy years.

I like the idea of a shorter cycle too, why not run a short ester test?. I don’t think you will notice a prohormone stacked with a Steroid

Anyone have any opinion on M-sten? I have seen bottles of M-sten RX for sale. Is it a pro-hormone or is it a designer steroid like superdrol was?

Designer steroid. Won’t last long.

RPN HAVOC (epistane) is a Solid Pro hormone. Minimal side affects and legit gains.

Honestly what is the point of pro-hormones?

Ok, so they’re more obtainable since they’re legal but when using them you’ll still need cycle support and PCT drugs like nolvadex, and adex and obtaining those without a prescription is illegal.

[quote]USAWchamp wrote:
Honestly what is the point of pro-hormones?

Ok, so they’re more obtainable since they’re legal but when using them you’ll still need cycle support and PCT drugs like nolvadex, and adex and obtaining those without a prescription is illegal.[/quote]

exactly, and these new prohormones have not undergone human testing… foolish pursuit

While i agree it is generally a less tested field, the sides from dhea derivative prohormones (the non grey market ones) are more predictable than others, such as methylstenbolone.

Doing pro-hormones was the most retarded thing I had ever done. I honestly thought all I needed to kick start production back up was DAA or something similar. I am honestly surprised it did not fuck me up. I kept right on gaining after I stopped. Some if my liver enzymes were a tad high.

I took DMZ dymethazine which is simply two superdrol molecules connected by a nitrogen atom. It is nowhere near as potent as superdrol (so I am told as I have never taken it). Luckily for me DMZ does not convert to estrogen so I had no worry for estrogenic side effects. Not that I was even aware of that fact. Damn I was stupid. But I made mad gainz 15 lbs in four weeks and I did not drop any weight post cycle. But in hindsight I am not sure if it was the DMZ or that fact that I was an inexperienced lifter who was truly busting my ass in the gym and stuffing my face with food. Anyways moral of the story is follow Mr. Walkways solid advice of avoiding orals. They are fucking stoopid.

I’ve been doing a lot of research into taking a PH as I have many friends who have tried and loved them. Is there any out there more recommended that others? Any feedback would be appreciated just trying to get more knowledge about PH before possibly putting it into my boddy.