[quote]duffyj2 wrote:
Sentoguy wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
duffyj2 wrote:
Glad you brought this up. I’ve seen it before, and in my opinion it’s the sloppiest hook I’ve ever seen. It’s what many boxing coaches say your hook SHOULDN’T look like.
He doesn’t show the footwork, and the “hook” is too extended.
I love this guy’s videos, but this one is just… weird.
You’re right. Despite the fact that the coach’s advice is good, the kid’s technique does leave a lot to be desired. I generally advise these videos for anyone looking into boxing and hadn’t watched them for a while. I shall have to find some alternative.
I disagree with the hook being too extended. It is an outside hook, not an inside one.
I’m liking John Graden’s videos…
Not to mention he has that kid turn his hand over ALOT. Strange, because the reason you turn your hand is to get the snap in a jab and the torgue on a straight right. But on the hook? It will detract from your power and probably blow your shoulder out if you hit hard enough.
Like I said, I like this guys videos, so I guess maybe this one is an anamoly.
Can’t watch the video, says it’s a “malformed id”.
Gotta disagree with you though Irish about turning the fist over hurting your power or blowing your shoulder out in a hook. Rotating your palm down engages the deltoid and upper back muscles more and actually increases the power in a hook. The Eddie Futch style hook (which Graden demonstrates in the video I linked to above) is a very powerful hook, much more powerful than the Angelo Dundee style hook where the palm is more vertical.
Not to mention that a vertical hook will mean that you’re hitting with the last three knuckles rather than the first two. Fine with boxing gloves on, bad idea with bare fists.
Also, the primary reason you rotate your palm down on a jab or straight right is to cut your opponent. Once again, boxing gloves don’t illustrate this all that well, but with bare fists it’s pretty apparent. Yes, it also adds protection against punches coming over top of your elbow and rotational speed. But those aren’t the primary reasons that you pronate your fist.
It is a pity the video dosen’t work for you. The hook that graden demonstrates ends with the palm facing towards the floor. The kid in the video I posted makes contact with his fist vertical and then turns it so much his palm is almost facing his opponent.
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Got the link to work. Yeah, now that I see the video I understand what you guys are saying. He does over-rotate his fist and it is much too extended. My mistake for disagreeing with you Irish. I see what you were talking about now.