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Holocaust Survivor Leaving US

One of our neighbors is moving. I’ve been in this neighborhood for about six years now, but didn’t really know them very well at all - just waves and nods, mostly.

So I heard the moving van pull up this morning. When I got home this evening I happened to spy my neighbor (he’s like 85 years old - I don’t know exactly, but he’s old, talks and moves very slowly) standing on the sidewalk next to the van. I walked over and shook his hand, and we started talking. I asked him where he was moving, and he said, “Back to Germany.”

I had been stationed in Germany for two years while in the military, so I lit up, and commented about how beautiful the country was, and inquired if he was going back because he missed it.

“No,” he answered me. “I’m going back because I’ve seen this before.” He then commenced to explain that when he was a kid, he watched with his family in fear as Hitler’s government committed atrocity after atrocity, and no one was willing to say anything. He said the news refused to question the government, and the ones who did were not in the newspaper business much longer. He said good neighbors, people he had known all his life, turned against his family and other Jews, grabbing on to the hate and superiority “as if they were starved for it” (his words).

He said he was too old to see it happen right in front of his eyes again, and too old to do anything about it, so he was taking his family back to Europe on Thursday where they would be safe from George W. Bush and his neocons. He seemed resolute, but troubled, nonetheless, as if being too young on one end and too old on the other to fight what he saw happening was wearing on him.

I gotta tell you - it was chilling. I let him talk, and the whole time, my gut was churning, like I had mutated butterflies in my stomach. When he was finished, he shook my hand, gripping it really hard, until his knuckles turned white and he was shaking. He looked me in the eyes, hard, and said, “I will pray for your family and your country.” He let go of my hand and hobbled away.

I have related this event to you in the hopes it will serve as a cautionary anecdote about the state of our Union, and to illustrate the path we Americans are being led down by a group of fanatics bent on global economic and military dominion. When a man who survived the fruits of fascism decides its time to leave THIS country because he’s seeing the same patterns that led to the Holocaust and other Nazi horrors beginning to form here, it is time for us to recognize the underlying evil inherent in the actions of those who claim they work for all Americans, and for all mankind. And it is incumbent upon all Americans, Red and Blue, Republican and Democrat, to stop them.

http://justicefornone.com/article.php?story=20050527204356114&query=holocaustHolocaust

[quote]ssn0 wrote:
Holocaust Survivor Leaving US

One of our neighbors is moving. I’ve been in this neighborhood for about six years now, but didn’t really know them very well at all - just waves and nods, mostly.

So I heard the moving van pull up this morning. When I got home this evening I happened to spy my neighbor (he’s like 85 years old - I don’t know exactly, but he’s old, talks and moves very slowly) standing on the sidewalk next to the van. I walked over and shook his hand, and we started talking. I asked him where he was moving, and he said, “Back to Germany.”

I had been stationed in Germany for two years while in the military, so I lit up, and commented about how beautiful the country was, and inquired if he was going back because he missed it.

“No,” he answered me. “I’m going back because I’ve seen this before.” He then commenced to explain that when he was a kid, he watched with his family in fear as Hitler’s government committed atrocity after atrocity, and no one was willing to say anything. He said the news refused to question the government, and the ones who did were not in the newspaper business much longer. He said good neighbors, people he had known all his life, turned against his family and other Jews, grabbing on to the hate and superiority “as if they were starved for it” (his words).

He said he was too old to see it happen right in front of his eyes again, and too old to do anything about it, so he was taking his family back to Europe on Thursday where they would be safe from George W. Bush and his neocons. He seemed resolute, but troubled, nonetheless, as if being too young on one end and too old on the other to fight what he saw happening was wearing on him.

I gotta tell you - it was chilling. I let him talk, and the whole time, my gut was churning, like I had mutated butterflies in my stomach. When he was finished, he shook my hand, gripping it really hard, until his knuckles turned white and he was shaking. He looked me in the eyes, hard, and said, “I will pray for your family and your country.” He let go of my hand and hobbled away.

I have related this event to you in the hopes it will serve as a cautionary anecdote about the state of our Union, and to illustrate the path we Americans are being led down by a group of fanatics bent on global economic and military dominion. When a man who survived the fruits of fascism decides its time to leave THIS country because he’s seeing the same patterns that led to the Holocaust and other Nazi horrors beginning to form here, it is time for us to recognize the underlying evil inherent in the actions of those who claim they work for all Americans, and for all mankind. And it is incumbent upon all Americans, Red and Blue, Republican and Democrat, to stop them.

http://justicefornone.com/article.php?story=20050527204356114&query=holocaustHolocaust

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Really? We are really going to go here with it?

Complete Bullshit. The Holocaust started in the mid 1930’s so therefore any Holocaust survivors still alive today were too young to have “seen this happen before.” They were little kids, if even born yet, when all the events leading up to the Holocaust were going on, so how in the fuck can they compare these two periods with any revelance.
Good for him, go back to Germany, Smell ya.

This is a little bit overly dramatic. Last time I checked “Bush and his Neocons” are one of the most unpopular administrations in U.S. history.

Our elections are never very far away and in a few short years our country can and likely will be on a very different course than it is now. Hopefully it will be better.

Unfortunately I have a pessimistic streak that prefers to hope for the best and prepare for the worse.

I’m not ready to pack up and leave the U.S. just yet but don’t doubt that it is possible that the sentiment of the original post could also one day be the same as my own.

That story’s a trip. I don’t take it THAT seriously though, the warning I mean. We’ve had worse Hitleresque things happen here before

[quote]dk44 wrote:
Complete Bullshit. The Holocaust started in the mid 1930’s so therefore any Holocaust survivors still alive today were too young to have “seen this happen before.” They were little kids, if even born yet, when all the events leading up to the Holocaust were going on, so how in the fuck can they compare these two periods with any revelance.
Good for him, go back to Germany, Smell ya.[/quote]

Actually the Holocaust started in earnest in the early 40s so anyone witnessing the Nazis taking over 1933 that had then been 10 years old is now around 85 years old.

Anyone notice he is leaving as the Democrats are gaining more power? Interesting.

Seriously this is total BS. I am accusing this person of making this story up. A complete fantasy.

I don’t think a Holocaust survivor would make such faulty connections as this. And in fact I am totally disgusted that a person would use the holocaust in such a way.

But I will say I am impressed that they allowed dissenting posts that echo my thoughts to be posted there without being taken down.

Anyone familiar with the history of Nazi Germany should easily find the flaws in this persons statements, and why a real holocaust surviver would never connect actions here with what they actually lived through.

Hitler never created the hate of the Jews in Germany, it was already there.

Also are they saying we are about to persecute the Jews? Or is there another group that we are targeting? And exactly why don’t I know about this? Why can’t I locate that group.

(Oh wait. Duh. The Christians.)

Also how many holocaust survivors use the term neocon?

Then says, “He then commenced to explain that when he was a kid, he watched with his family in fear as Hitler’s government committed atrocity after atrocity, and no one was willing to say anything. He said the news refused to question the government, and the ones who did were not in the newspaper business much longer.”

Anyone who says that this is going on in America, and there are no negative information put out by our news media about the Bush administration would have to be the most ignorant son of a bitch around. (Or think the rest of us are.)

It is just interesting that this event coincidentally happens to a person who has been posting anti-Bush attacks on some crazy left wing website.

Also the fact that he posted a very similar thing at least 3 other times.
“I was just wondering what the German people called their fellow citizens who saw the rise of the Nazi party, saw the end of their Democracy looming, and cried warnings to a public simply deaf to them.”

http://justicefornone.com//article.php/20070723193204663

What a massive coincidence he actually found a holocaust survivor.

Orion, exactly my point, a fucking 10 year old(at best) couldnt have “seen this before,” he may have been alive, but to act like he had any understanding of the time period leading up to the Holocaust is crazy, therefore he cannot accurately compare that period to the current one.