[quote]Bill Roberts wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
Why the hell would someone structure their program like this? Despite the hoards of potential responses like, “I made great progress”, I am betting few will show that they actually built impressive size by doing this long term. Why not focus on muscle groups at this point? Why do all shoulder, chest, triceps work in one day?
I also can’t tell if the previous poster was even joking or not. I train shoulders on FUCKING SHOULDER DAY. I do believe THAT avoids all confusion.[/quote]
Lol, yeah I’m pretty sure the previous poster was being sarcastic.
Anyway, I agree with you… but even if he does do a push/pull split, he’s worried about putting a pull exercise on a push day and vice versa, as if that would somehow ruin the entire routine, it’s ridiculous.[/quote]
Unfortunately, I can’t recall anyone but myself ever pointing out the folly of thinking that the target muscles being trained care in the slightest whether the hands are experiencing pull on the fingers or push on the palms.
E.g., the lower back does not care whether a barbell is being pushed by the traps, or whether it is being pulled by the hands.
The medial delts don’t care whether the hands are pushing or pulling either.
Neither do the hamstrings or the glutes, etc.
Or while the most common way of training the traps involves pulling with the hands, there are effective trap exercises where one pushes a barbell or yoke on the shoulders. The difference – push vs pull – which makes no difference shouldn’t move the exercise to a different day.
There are probably many other examples.
You decide a split according to what works well for you or have good reason to think will work well and so you want to try it; and if designing your own, planning is much aided by understanding what muscles are being worked.
But figuring from whether the hands are pushing or pulling is basing things on only a rough clue.[/quote]
It is like they don’t even base building a routine on logic anymore. It is simply based on which program sounds the newest or the flashiest.
Being a personal trainer today must rely on whether you can make up dramatic new names for a program that will get your name out there.
To actually become confused enough to not know where to throw in lateral delts only shows how retardedly pseudo-scientific this crap as become when the biggest best built bodies are STILL trained with basic concepts of training.