When I perform a rear lat spread my lats look thick and wide, however for the front relaxed pose and when I place my arms above my head from the front my lats disappear.
Any tips on bringing out the lower portion of the lat?
Could it be that the teres major is more developed than my actual lat?
Get bigger
Look up skip hills posing video on youtube to learn how to pose. It is in zraws first comp thread as well.
But seriously if you can’t see your lats from the front your biggest focus should be getting bigger.
post a pic my man
front and rear lats spread plz
hard to tell if its posing or muscle develop without that
[quote]Iron_Made wrote:
Look up skip hills posing video on youtube to learn how to pose. It is in zraws first comp thread as well.
But seriously if you can’t see your lats from the front your biggest focus should be getting bigger.[/quote]
LOL “get bigger”
I thought of that, but then I realised it was too hard.
No, its not like they completely disappear from the front. They just don’t have that pop to them. I probably just need to either work on them as opposed to my traps or work on posing.
I do need practice with posing though…
It may just be your BF level making it seem that way.
Do your bent rows like this:
I have done them like this since I started and my lats are my best bodypart.
mfw “thick and wide”
mfw “tried getting bigger but it’s too hard”
Do you stand on the platform as well?
That’s a huge ROM, I will have to try it out.
Thanks
[quote]Mr. Walkway wrote:
mfw “thick and wide”
mfw “tried getting bigger but it’s too hard”[/quote]
Thanks for your input. Very helpful.
Lower bf levels will definitely add to the effect of thicker lats from the front. Also a few things I used to beef up the meat of my lats and impove my own taper when standing relaxed, or hitting a FDB from the front:
-Learn to do pulldowns or pullups while keeping your elbows in front of your torso and maintinin actual stress on the lats, and not on the midback muscles
-BB rows with a fairly (relatively) narrow reverse grip. This really gave me a nice additional stretch on the outer lats.
-Straight arm pressdowns with a rope attachment. At the ‘top’ part of the ROM, you get a really great stretch in your lats. I used this as a nice pre-exhaust at the beginning f my back sessions for along time.
S
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Lower bf levels will definitely add to the effect of thicker lats from the front. Also a few things I used to beef up the meat of my lats and impove my own taper when standing relaxed, or hitting a FDB from the front:
-Learn to do pulldowns or pullups while keeping your elbows in front of your torso and maintinin actual stress on the lats, and not on the midback muscles
-BB rows with a fairly (relatively) narrow reverse grip. This really gave me a nice additional stretch on the outer lats.
-Straight arm pressdowns with a rope attachment. At the ‘top’ part of the ROM, you get a really great stretch in your lats. I used this as a nice pre-exhaust at the beginning f my back sessions for along time.
S
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Stu, in regards to pulldowns/pullups, do you prefer to use a bar that allows for a parallel grip rather than a pronated grip straight bar pulldown? It seems like a parallel grip bar, especially a narrow grip one, allows the elbows to be in front of the torso. Reverse grip pulldowns would also fit the bill too.
[quote]thrasher_09 wrote:
Do you stand on the platform as well?
That’s a huge ROM, I will have to try it out.
Thanks[/quote]
Yes, and I vary my grip. Try a very close grip for a change…makes my lats cramp.
[quote]The Mighty Stu wrote:
Lower bf levels will definitely add to the effect of thicker lats from the front. Also a few things I used to beef up the meat of my lats and impove my own taper when standing relaxed, or hitting a FDB from the front:
-Learn to do pulldowns or pullups while keeping your elbows in front of your torso and maintinin actual stress on the lats, and not on the midback muscles
-BB rows with a fairly (relatively) narrow reverse grip. This really gave me a nice additional stretch on the outer lats.
-Straight arm pressdowns with a rope attachment. At the ‘top’ part of the ROM, you get a really great stretch in your lats. I used this as a nice pre-exhaust at the beginning f my back sessions for along time.
S
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Yeah I have a hard time feeling the lats sometimes with horizontal rowing movements but I find that the reverse grip really helps.
Does the elbows forward work because there is more shoulder extension and less retraction? Do you arch your back at the end of a vertical pulldown type movement or just concentrate on flexing the lats?
I will try the other two tips, thanks for your help.
[quote]IamMarqaos wrote:
[quote]thrasher_09 wrote:
Do you stand on the platform as well?
That’s a huge ROM, I will have to try it out.
Thanks[/quote]
Yes, and I vary my grip. Try a very close grip for a change…makes my lats cramp.[/quote]
I tried the bb row today and damn it felt good. Just not so sure about the position it places my lower back in. I’m not sure if I am flexible enough to allow a full forward lean.
When you do seated rows do you come all the way forward like some of the old pros? Or only let the upper back round like in the vid you posted?
One fun exercise selection (stolen from ebomb) is supersetting partial lat pulldowns (only top 1/2 ROM) with straight arm pushdowns for 1.5 reps.
Also, try Dead-stop DB Rows with a slow negative supersetted with pullovers, or One-arm cable pulldowns for high reps.
[quote]hungry4more wrote:
One fun exercise selection (stolen from ebomb) is supersetting partial lat pulldowns (only top 1/2 ROM) with straight arm pushdowns for 1.5 reps.
Also, try Dead-stop DB Rows with a slow negative supersetted with pullovers, or One-arm cable pulldowns for high reps. [/quote]
They sound brutal, are the partial lat pulldowns done heavier than normal?
I do the one arm cable pulldowns half kneeling for reps and they torch my lats. I also love one arm seated rows (supinated). I stole that one from pfx.
I mean your lats arent massive, but you could probably externally rotate a bit more. Get those armpits facing forward and raise your arms a little without shrugging your shoulders, much of your lat is simply behind your arm.
