What is the purpose of the procosanoid? What dosage do you take it at?
Also, can you give your thoughts on pantethine? What are the different sources of pantethine? I know it has been documented in its ability to rid the body of blood fats, but I see there are supplements that derive pantothenic acid from Vitamin B5 and pantethine from Pantesin, a patented product that supposedly lasts longer in the blood stream.
I know CP has a Pantethine Supreme and it lists the dose per capsule at 250 mg, but it does not say from what the pantethine is derived (e.g., as a salt from B5 or from Pantesin).
I ask because I am considering taking 500-1000 mg of pantethine about 1 hour before fasted cardio, to possibly aid in removing blood fats that will be circulating from the bout of cardio. I would take the pantethine along with a specific dose of L-Carnitine which I read can help mobilize fatty acids.
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The pantethine I use is Pantethine supreme by Poliquin as part of a low morning energy protocol (1 would take 2 with breakfast and 2 with lunch)
It is good for boosting test levels and metal detox as well. L carnitine is great for mobilizing fats, you should use 1-2 grams per 10 grams of fish oil and 400 i.u. vitamin e.
I currently use 500mg acetyl 1500mg tartrate form (both raise androgen receptors and acetyl helps with cognition as well).
Here is the rundown on prcosanoid:
It is made by ISS
ISS Research ProCosanoid, 60 Tabs
ProCosanoid is a fast acting sustained release formula, exclusively licensed by ISS Research, that provides an increase in energy, focus & clarity. By supplementing your lifestyle with ProCosanoid, one may see the following benefits:
Neural Energy - Sustained release over a 3-4 hour period has been reported.
Improved Muscular Contraction
Improved Chances of Weight Loss
Improved Mental Clarity
ProCosanoid is proprietary amalgamation of alkaloidal compounds comprised of Isolated Paraxanthine succinate, Ionized Theobromine succinate, and catalyzed Theophylline succinate.
Alpha-GPC is a purified Choline source added to ProCosanoid. Choline is an essential component of all living cells providing a source for acetylcholine, the key neurotransmitter in the brain supporting memory and cognitive performance.
Alpha-GPC is easily passed through the blood-brain barrier, raising blood and brain choline levels safely and effectively. Alpha- GPC may naturally increase the secretion of human growth hormone.
Spherical Dextrose Substrate is a supportive 100% pure ingredient designed and manufactured under patent protection. The spherical shape greatly increases glycogen cellular uptake and delivers glucose at unprecedented cellular efficiency. Uses scientifically engineered multi-platform technology to stimulate several essential cellular responses all at the same time.
Each Serving Size (cap) 1 provides:
Ingredients Dosage % Daily Value
Alpha Glycerophosphocholine(Alpha GPC) (mg) 10
B Complex Foundation (In A Base Of Caffeic Acid) (mg) 34
Thiamin B1 (mg) 1.5
Riboflavin B2 (mg) 1.7
Niacinamide B-3 (mg) 10
Pantothenic Acid B-5 (mg) 10
Pyridoxine HCL B-6 (mg) 2
Biotin B-7 1% (mcg) 6
Cyanocobalamin B-12 (mcg) 6
Glyco-Amino Complex (mg) 65
Spherical Dextrose Substrate (mg) 230 <1
*Daily Value not established
** Percent Daily Values are based on a 2,000 calorie diet
Ingredient Details :
Consisting Of: L-Glutamine, L-Arginine, L-Pyroglutamine, GABA, Lysine & L-Tyrosine In A Base Of Purified, De-Polymerized, Micro Crystalline Cellulose.
Spherical Dextrose Substrate:
Consisting Of: Mono, Poly, Oligo Saccharides
Micro Crystal Cellulose, Partially Pregelatinized Maize Starch, Cross Linked Sodium Carboxymethylcellose, Magnesium Stearate, Hypermellose, Titanium Dioxide, FD&C Yellow #6 and Sunset Yellow FCF
Suggested Use :
Take 1 tablet with a glass of water 15 minutes before exercise or before the need for mental alertness. (I only use 1 per day and I love it). The energy and mental alertness will continue for 4 to 5 hours. Do not exceed more than 2 tablets per 24 hr period.
I also do not methylate I have the MTHFR gene mutation so I take a lot of extra B vitamins!