Another thing… yeah, this site is great and all, but any newbie needs to read everything they can get their hands on, and read it all with an open mind and not let those ads, etc. suck you in. newbies got to educate themselves everywhere. We can scream to them until our heads pop off, and they won’t know how great a site t-mag is until they read other sites, magazines, etc… t-mag, its readers, its forum regulars, writers, researchers, aren’t always right and everyone else isn’t always wrong. I’ve been lifting and buying crap supplements (and a lot of good ones) over the past 16 years… newbies should listen to everyone, and if it sounds too good to be true, then it is…listen to everyone, read everything, and weed out the bullshit… t-mag is kind of like the best piece of ass you’ll ever have. But you won’t know how good this piece of ass it is until you had other pieces of ass…(sorry ladies, only metaphor I can think of at the time)… here’s another tip for newbies: have you all ever seen those multiple page ads for nitro-tech crap ??? ya, know… 6-8 pages sometimes… advertising in magazines in that volume isn’t cheap. Guess who pays for that elaborate advertising ? the consumer… guess who needs to cut a lot of corners in order to stay (price) competitive ???.. Biotest ads are short, right to the point, nicely presented to catch your eye, and only need one page… respectable advertising campaign.