They may converting some DHEA–>T and it is T that is creating the reported benefits. This can happen in the adrenals, but never leads to significant T levels [in TRT terms]. There can be direct effects on the brain, relative to a state of DHEA deficiency. I am quite doubtful about those reports.
KSman is purity still g2g? Do you still have a positive opinion.
Hey KSman- Could you take a look when you get a chance. I could really use some of your wisdom.
But KSman I saw one guy here in the forum that was taking HCG, felt great. And then stopped felt bad with just 280 of testosterone.
With testosterone 280 started taking just DHEA and Pregnelonone and felt great again even with low testosterone. That’s weird, seems that DHEA is the biggest hormone to convert the T into DHT.
Would it be safe to say that if you are taking an AI with your TRT, you can take less testosterone? For example if I am on 140mg per week… with an AI can I perhaps go down to 120 or 100mg per week? My understanding is that E2 with bind to Androgen receptors and the Free T has no where to go. Let me ask this… does taking an AI affect what your Total T will show up as on blood work or it will it only indirectly affect Free T?
For Example, If while on 120mg T per week, but TT on the 8th day was 450… would this number have been higher If i was taking an AI? Total E2 was 32
would love a follow up
nothing negative about purity has come to my attention
DHEA–>E2 is unusual. Some guys, a few, have this problem. Note that most young males have high DHEA levels and low E2. See the problem?
Many on TRT do not see major changes in TT and FT when AI is introduced. There will be some effects. With labs, one can adjust T doses as needed if your doc is able to see things that way.
KSman, could you give your view of the question about bioavailable T ranges from Labcorp and Quest?
Here is the question:
If you could answer it in the thread referenced.
Hi KSman, can you have a look at my case? Yes I am well aware i have thyroid issues contributing but i’m interested in your take on my high prolactin levels, highish LH and FSH and normal T for a 25 yr old male. I’ve never taken test or any sex hormone before. These results have been like this for years. My DHEA is low but i can’t take this because it lowers my cortisol too much and I have adrenal fatigue.
KSman, I have question for you:
in May I did the blood (Quest):
DHEA = 321 (45-345)
TT = 457
SHBG = 9
I was on testopel back then
In July I started cyp shots, aiming, as most guys at high TT (which is a mistake because my SHBG is low)
Results in September (LabCorp):
DHEA=431 (89-427), HIGH
- I presume that SHBG lowered as a result of increased TT. What is your opinion?
- Why do you think DHEA increased? What are the implications of DHEA increase?
Everyone make sure to pay it forward by keeping threads alive, respond with findings, results, positive and negative outcomes, help others who might be searching for answers with similar stories or blood work.
Could you take a look at my thread if you have some time: http://tnation.T-Nation.com/free_online_forum/sports_training_performance_bodybuilding_trt/26_low_t_advice_and_blood_analysis_needed
Thanks a ton.
KSman - I have posted all the results from my blood work that I have had done this year. A majority of it is from May of this year. Please take a look at it when you get a chance. I see the Urologist this coming Thursday (Oct. 3rd).
Second attempt for someone to have a look at my case. Can you please give mine a look KSman??
I am well aware i have thyroid issues contributing but i’m interested in your take on my high prolactin levels, highish LH and FSH and normal T for a 25 yr old male. I’ve never taken test or any sex hormone before. These results have been like this for years. My DHEA is low but i can’t take this because it lowers my cortisol too much and I have adrenal fatigue.
First DHEA will decrease and then cortisol will decrease.
KSman why some people feel good by taking HCG and then feel bad taking just testosterone with AI?
HCG can increase DHEA and DHT? Pregnenolone and Cortisol too?
My DHEA and Cortisol is low brazilianguy,
just want someone to investigate my testosterone, lh, fsh, prolactin readings…
Thanks for your previous response. I have updated my thread with more organized labs and answers to some of the questions you asked.
Would appreciate your insight on the following thread:
If you don’t mind, I would appreciate your advice on this thread. Thank you for your time.