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Keeping Shoulders Back on Deads


#1

I can't seem to do it. I've been training with shitty form for a while now. I've got a couple videos of me trying (but failing). Any ideas on how I could fix some of these issues? I'm thinking my lower back/abs just aren't cutting it, though I'm sure there may be some mobility issues. Any thoughts are appreciated. Thanks in advance.

I think this was a 380lb deadlift, I can't see on my screen but it was so ugly I forgot what was on the bar. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JB7HuOTG3eg

365lbs Here's lighter about a month earlier, working on keeping shoulders back then too http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ilO_Nl12css&feature=related

345lbs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IHJ9KSVnh-Q&feature=related


#2

Well that heavy one was ultimately a straight leg dead lift because your hips are almost locked out before the weight is barely off the ground. The 365 looks better, where your quads are more involved in the actual lift. I'd say keep working on pushing with the legs through your heels, almost in a sitting fashion. I had the problem of having a very strong back so i could do a really heavy but shitty form lift, but my legs weren't strong enough. Working on my leg strength helped better my form.


#3

I would consider putting your hands on the bar and pulling yourself into your start position (ie a different set-up). It may help you fill your belly with air better and keep the abs tighter than squatting down and grabbing the bar. For reference this is what I mean.


#4

I'll give that a try and record it. I used to do horrible deads with my hips way too high. I got decent hamstring strength from it all, but I also squat sumo too, so by quads are lacking I think. I also ponied up and bought an inzer belt so maybe that will help me use my core more. I cramp up and fatigue when I grab my air so that's been a work in progress too.

Thanks guys. any other ideas are great. I'll keep working on my form.