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Just on TRT. Worried about Doc


#1

Just was placed on TRT. My total test was 370 and experiencing symptoms.

My doc (urologist) wanted to give me 400mg of test cypionate every 3 weeks in one shot. I talked him in to 1ml (200mg) every 10 days but am worried that this is even too long between shots. From all I’ve read I feel like I shouldn’t go longer than a week. And 3 weeks between shots?

I also talked to him about what happens if my estrogen levels go up and whether I should have something on hand if it does. He poo-poo’d that away and said that in 8 weeks he will do a blood test and measure estrogen and if it is too high the solution is to drop the test amount.

He “taught” me how to self-inject in my outer thigh using a 5ml syringe and a 20 gauge needle. Felt like a harpoon but at least it didn’t hurt.

Anyway, I am going to visit another urologist and see if his approach is any different. I just feel like the protocol this doc is suggesting is not as comprehensive as I would like.


#2

If he is going to let you self inject then just run your own protocol of 100mg/week to start. That’s of course if you are sticking with him. I wouldn’t… I would find a new doc.


#3

Ohh fuck dude find a new doctor or a endocrinologist, urologists are just gonna look at your dick. Endocrinologists specialize in hormones. The half life on enathate I believe is 4 days (someone correct me if I’m wrong) so you need to be sticking a needle in every 4 days. And outer thigh injections are good but I’d do it in the butt (no homo) cause it’s less painful lol. BUT I WOULD NOT INJECT UNTIL YOU HAVE AN ANTI-ESTROGEN COMPOUND. Cause what will happen is in the 8 weeks you don’t have it, you’ll build up estrogen and feel just the same as you do with low T. But yeah go to an endocrinologist to get a proper dosing. My opinion would be 50-75mg every 4 days


#4

And get a smaller gauge needle. more like 23 or 25 …1" long with a 3 mil syringe. That will be perfect for any shot you need…quads, delts, glutes. Or you can try SubQ with an insulin syringe. Alot of advocates here for that method.

Google for Anastolzole as a research chemical. You’ll find the website so you can order.


#5

Self inject 50mg twice a week with #29 0.5ml 1/2" insulin syringe SC/SQ over quads.
0.5mg anastrozole at time of injections
250iu hCG SC EOD to preserver testes

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#6

Thank you all for the responses! I did order some 25 gauge, 1" needles and 3cc syringes so I don’t have to use the harpoons. I might try 1/2 ml (100mg) every 5 days once I get them.
I am def concerned about the estrogen and am considering getting some Arimidex on my own since my other doc appt isn’t for 3-1/2 weeks. I am going to call them to make sure before I wait and go that the doc does believe in things like an AI and perhaps hCG. Otherwise I will have waited a month and be no further than I am with this first guy.