okay, so i mis understood things there as you are planning your second cycle not your first.
first cycle should be kept simple.
500mg week of test cyp or enan
dbol for the first 4 weeks
proviron @ 50mg a day throughout or winstrol for the last 4 weeks
Stasis taper and done, easy peasy.
Seeing as your already a massive fella naturally that should blow you up real good.
It will be difficult to say much now about your second cycle as we can only estimate what weight / bf% you will have then.
As i said before, i would keep away from dirty clenbuterol jmo mind (can you tell i hate the stuff) and stick with a test prop, mast, t3 cycle. The T3 dosage will have to be based imo on your status at the time and how well we can tweak your diet.
I personally love T3 for bulking but thats another story haha
I’ve read enough to do a cycle with tren included for a first cycle, so my first cycle is going to be a test(E3D)/tren(ED) cycle with a dbol kickstart, with adex (eod) as well as hcg (e3d) ran throughout until the stasis, at which the hcg will be stopped and the adex tapered off.
Tren starts at 1/2 the dose of test split into daily injections. Each week, the amount of tren injected daily will increase by 5mg until I either hit a threshold where the sides take over the benefits or the Tren hits 3/4 the amount of test in dosage. I do not want to pass that regardless of whether I can handle more or not. Tren stops 2 weeks before the stasis begins to help let up on the suppression. Then the taper will include nolvadex. That’s my cycle, very simplified of course.
Haha why do you hate clen so much? And I’ve actually read that you can take about 25mcg of T3 per day while bulking if you’re taking Tren because it affects the thyroid hormone. What’s your reason for running it?
As for my weight, I’m guessing it will be around 270. It’s hard to say what my bodyfat will be after the cycle because I’m sure the fat won’t be as much as it will be on a normal bulk, especially with tren. I know my bodyfat isn’t going to want to keep around 2 - 3% after my comp in August, nor do I want that haha. I’m starting the cycle 3 weeks after my comp. The 3 weeks is for recovery of the body from such harsh dieting.
As for planning my 2nd cycle that you are referring to, I’m kinda doing that, but the ideas are in my head right now. I’m not sure what compounds (other than test) I’m going to use and in what doses, etc. Hell, if I’m fairly lean at the end and would only need to diet down for a couple months or less, I might just go on another bulk cycle! That’s why I’m not putting anything down on paper just yet. I’m just learning as much as I can so that when the time comes, I will know what to do no matter which road I decide to take.
Also, I have 25g of Test E right now. Would it really make that much of a difference to use prop?[/quote]
Well that sounds like a sensible plan reguarding the tren/test/sides ratio.
Clen makes me feel like shit and i found it as effective for fat loss as a white bread buttered cheese sandwich
T3 is awsome for bulking with just test ime.
To simplify, it rapidly increases the rate of which calories can be processed. Steroids rapidly increase the rate of which calories (protein/carbs) can be synth’d to muscle & muscle glyco.
This allows me to eat more and gain more, its just supercharging your steroids in a nutshell.
Seeing as how you havent inj before this being your 1st cycle, prop could be a daunting task, as eod imo is not ideal, everyday is alot better.
Enanthate will bloat you slightly more, but for a convience standpoint and in terms of a bulking cycle enanthate wins every time.