Does anybody else feel that taking steroids is cheating in some shape or form? I feel that If I were to take the weightlifting 100% seriously and put all I’ve got into it and done it entierly myself…
I would feel great! because I’ve accomplished this all by myself without the aid of steroids,and I would feel that I haven’t accomplished as much if i did use them…
Do you know what I mean?
Yet I still admire those who spend hour after hour in the gym creating muscle bound bodies with the strength of 5 men!..I Just want to know how elite weight lifters feel about this statement…i don’t intend to be a ‘troll’[/quote]
It is a fair question. Just because you aren’t of the same view as me or ‘us’ does NOT mean it is a view not worth listening, or responding to.
I know what you mean - i thought similar things for a few years - in an on and off fashion - after my first couple of Dbol cycles (around 8-9 years ago now). BUT back then i didn’t have the same aspirations and goals as i do now. They dictate my feelings to PED’s to a high degree.
But over the past 10 years training with Barbells and Dumbells, i only actually decided i wanted to be as big as humanly possible (for me) about 10 months ago.
Anyway… while my aims and goals were different, i DID feel a bit like i was cheating myself by using AAS. I actually did! I did it (steroids) in a very restricted way, short, mild cycles(6wk deca - yes. tis true…;D) - and got killer gains.
A little muscle history. I am 5’8" and many here are snide towards young lads of 170lbs… and 2 years training. Well by the time i had been training um… about 4 years(!) 18-22, i had gotten to a massive 140lbs!
Now believe me that bigger is better, however at 140lbs i would draw compliments on my body regularly and was seen as a young lad who was serious enough about lifting to actually be able to get some results worth having (as those who know what training is like - the results come long and slow…!).
I would often end up in conversations about weights, gym, fitness etc at that age and at only 10stone. At the time i thought i was hercules. The mind truly boggles!
Now at 200lbs it is a different story of course.
But i digress…
So i was always kinda muscular, a true ecto-mesomorph and lean with visible muscle bellies… which definitely responded to stimuli, and always slim with slim joints etc… which made any muscle growth i did achieve all that much more noticeable i guess, even if it was sloooooooow as all hell to grow past 24.
I had a few growth spurts upto that age, some helped with AAS, somne natural. But damn. Natural training with a 6 week cycle every year or two on average (often less) is painfully slow.
Over the years… life happening all the while - yet with the one constant - consistent training - I have managed to gain a TON of muscle.
Nowadays I have realised new goals of muscularity and size, and learnt slowly over the years of training naturally and not,
That the ways those goals may be actually reached will need to be through the carefully controlled, sensible yet thorough use of PED’s. And with that realisation i have also become to feel that i will be cheating no-one when i work as hard as i do, in the gym and out, to achieve those goals, drugs or not.
The drugs don’t take away from my attainment or achievement. They just assist. I mean that in as true and pure way as it can be spoken. i believe that as though it were the word of god. (yes, the same one i dont believe in) I MEAN that deeply.
I use the drugs to assist my trsaining and body in realising the goals i have set for myself.
Is that so wrong?
Also over the past year - and why i gave a little history above - i have also learned that for my particular genetic make-up, that if i was to want to compete on any level of play naturally, it would be so fucking low - they would have to re-invent the sport…
Honestly, I have hit my genetic potential. I got the benefit of being ‘muscley and veiny’ from as young as 14! Honestly! I trained from then with bodyweight till 18 when i got bars and dumbells.
What i am saying is - I am an OK natural… not a competitive ‘ok’ just an ok…ok.
Supra-natural i can not only realise my goals but i suspect with the correct discipline and control, i may surpass a couple of them. That isn’t about cheating, gaining the upper hand,
Denial or getting something i don’t deserve, it is about being willing to go the step further to realise what i dream, about being tough willed enough to gamble with my health for a simple thing such as extreme muscularity. And it is extreme muscularity i desire.
I slam anyone who comes to this site with moderate muscularity dreams yet wanting to shoot a whole manner of drugs to get there. That is BS.
It is being a Hardcore Bodybuilder. Or Hardcore Aspiring Bodybuilder!!! lol
The clue is in the name, it isnt “drugs” or “cheating”.
It is being risky, edgy and hardcore enough to do whatEVER it takes to get there… to the top of the game. to where you can be with every last breath, every last sweat bead, with every last pump of the heart… and THEN some more of whatever it needs… THEN re-assess where you are… and go at it some more.
Here’s to being more than we dreamed.